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AI and slash chords

Started by YammyFan, October 29, 2022, 08:05:58 PM

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YammyFan

If  I play a G Chord on my PSR 970  with my left hand will my KB automatically choose the best  inversion, or will I just get   plain old G+B+D .   My KB is always set to AI Fingering. At Least I think my KB is always set to AI fingering. Maybe, some of the styles I use when I am playing the KB cater for lazy people like me.
John

mikf

What notes are you playing for the chord? The keyboard doesn't read your mind even with AI, it reacts to what you play.
Mike

YammyFan

Quote from: mikf on October 29, 2022, 09:16:13 PM
What notes are you playing for the chord? The keyboard doesn't read your mind even with AI, it reacts to what you play.
Mike
I usually play the tune with my right hand so does that mean that  my KB hears that note and one split second later  my KB chooses an appropriate slash chord for me?
John

Fred Smith

Quote from: YammyFan on October 29, 2022, 08:05:58 PM
If  I play a G Chord on my PSR 970  with my left hand will my KB automatically choose the best  inversion, or will I just get   plain old G+B+D .   My KB is always set to AI Fingering. At Least I think my KB is always set to AI fingering. Maybe, some of the styles I use when I am playing the KB cater for lazy people like me.

A G chord will sound the same regardless of which inversion is played.

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Fred
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YammyFan

Quote from: Fred Smith on October 29, 2022, 10:30:47 PM
A G chord will sound the same regardless of which inversion is played.
Cheers,
Fred
Does that mean that if I want to play from a piece of sheet music that has slash chords I had better NOT use AI fingering. And learn to play inversions.
John

acparker

I play for my Church, and I use the AI fingering and slash chords to recreate the bass line from the hymn. (As close as I can, anyway.)

With AI, it doesn't matter what inversion you play the full chord with -- it will sound in Root position.  To do slash chords in AI, you just play two notes -- the Bass Note you want, and the root note above it.  Ie:  Bb/D.  You'd play a D and the Bb above it.  Sometimes, it doesn't work out properly.  Minor chords where the Bass is on something other than the 3rd will instead play the Major.  Fm/Ab works fine, but playing C as the Bass and F as the Root gives F/C, not Fm/C.  You *can* force what you want by playing a four-finger chord, with whatever bass note lowest.  Cm/G -->  G-C-Eb-G.  Since that would mean learning a new set of fingering, personally, I think I would just learn to play in the Fingered-On-Bass Mode. 

Adam
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Fred Smith

Quote from: YammyFan on October 30, 2022, 12:06:41 AM
Does that mean that if I want to play from a piece of sheet music that has slash chords I had better NOT use AI fingering. And learn to play inversions.

I didn't say that at all.

If the display says the chord is F, it doesn't matter how you got the keyboard to recognize the chord (single finger, root chord, inversion, ai fingering, etc.)

If the display says F/G, it doesn't matter how you got it there.

Play whatever chording gets you the results you want.

Cheers,
Fred
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Sun Lakes, AZ
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Rick D.

Yammy Fan

I play the slash chords with AI the same way acparker does, with two fingers. Keep your screen on the main screen and you can see when you get the right combination, as it will be displayed on the screen.

Rick D.

acparker

Just wanted to mention that F/G is one of the more problematic slash cords.  If you do the usual (G on the bottom, F on the top), the keyboard will interpret it as G7.  But, G-A-F works.

(One of these days I'm going to learn how to play the bass pedals I built.)

Adam
Current Projects:
Arranging Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat for the Genos
Writing Sequel to my novel, "Megin's Clay" (by Adam Parker)
Playing and Singing for Saint James Major Catholic Church (Sharbot Lake)

bassgolf

Yes, I also believe that "fingered on bass" is the best way to play slash chords.

Remember that 3 note chords have 3 versions-Root, 1st Inversion and 2nd Inversion, while 4 note chords(7th chords) have 4 versions starting with Root.

Bassgolf
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EileenL

I find AI fingering much easier than on Bass. You only need to play two notes the lower one being the bass so C with an E Bass would be played as E and C with C being the top note.
Eileen