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Started by Michael Trigoboff, February 20, 2022, 11:38:33 PM

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Michael Trigoboff

I took a shot today at creating a multi pad file.

I started with a MultiPad from my Genos, which I saved to a flash drive. Then I changed the file extension to .mid and imported it into Cubase. I replaced the MIDI for one of the tracks and then exported the result as a Type 1 MIDI file. Then I changed the file extension back to .pad and imported it into the Genos.

I used this page as a guide to make sure I was doing things correctly.

It did not work well. I seem to be getting an extra MultiPad for button 1. My intended first track ends up as button 2.

Any clues about what I might be doing wrong gratefully accepted. Am I doing this the hard way? Is there an easier way?

retired software developer and Computer Science instructor
Grateful Deadhead emeritus

"He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt."
-- Joseph Heller, Catch-22

overover

Hi Michael,

I haven't edited any Multi Pad files in Cubase yet. Cubase may change something in the basic file structure (e.g. regarding the Markers).

"MixMaster" can load and save .pad files directly (without renaming them to .mid). I recommend you to load the original file and the edited file into MixMaster (MixMaster will automatically open another instance for the second file). Then click on "List View".

In the right area of the List View window you can filter out certain events. For example, you could filter out the Note events, then you should see relatively quickly how the two .pad files differ.
>>> https://psrtutorial.com/MB/EV_Files/mixmaster.html


P.S.
If you haven't already, please also see the programs "PadMaker-Midi" and "PadMaker-Style" (also by Etienne Volbragt, the developer of MixMaster). You can also find these tools via the link above.


Hope this helps!

Best regards,
Chris
● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

Joe H

Michael,

You might try PadMaker-Midi.   https://psrtutorial.com/MB/EV_Files/padmakermidi.html It will allow you to load a MIDI file and clip the file to any number of bars and insert it in any one of the 4 buttons. Also has many editing features to mix, alter notes, Note Velocity, Note Gate Time (length), etc, and has an Undo last edit feature if you don't like the results or make a mistake.

If you have a copy of StyleMagic you can use the MixMaster GoTo function to send the Multi Pad to StyleMagic or other software to change the Pad or edit it.  You can get MixMaster here:   https://psrtutorial.com/MB/EV_Files/mixmaster.html

When you save the file in StyleMagic it will send the file back to MixMaster to then save as MultiPad file in its correct format.

You can buy StyleMagic here:  https://www.midisoft.pl/en/

Joe H
Music is the Universal Language!

My Article: Using Multi Pads in registrations. Download Regs, Styles & MPs:  http://psrtutorial.com/music/articles/dancemusic.html

JohnS (Ugawoga)

Can anyone Back engineer EMC Style works???


All the best
John
Genos 2     AMD RYZEN  9 7900  12 Core Processor 32 ram,   Focusrite Scarlet 4i4 4th Gen.

Joe H

John,

Since the topic will not go away I will pursue this issue further.  German law may not allow the software to be hacked or reverse engineered.  I what found previously is that if Klaus had relatives they now own the copyrights.  If there is no family claiming ownership then a German agency owns the copyrights.  I don't know the name of that agency and if this is true, the questions are:

1. Will they give or sell the copyrights to a computer programmer.

2. Is there a computer programmer that is willing to remove the copy protection and fix the bugs?

3. Is there a computer programmer willing to provide a PIN2 with KeyGen software to people who own the program already?

It will take awhile to get these answers but I will try in the next few weeks.

NOTE: I think it is possible that Klaus himself used KeyGen software to create the PIN 2 that allows the software run.

Joe H
Music is the Universal Language!

My Article: Using Multi Pads in registrations. Download Regs, Styles & MPs:  http://psrtutorial.com/music/articles/dancemusic.html

Michael Trigoboff

Thanks, Joe. PadMaker worked great.

Chris, MixMaster will take me more time to get into because it seems more complicated, but I fully intend to check it out.

There are still a few more glitches to work out, but I am now well on my way. Thanks to you both.
retired software developer and Computer Science instructor
Grateful Deadhead emeritus

"He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt."
-- Joseph Heller, Catch-22

Michael Trigoboff

I noticed something about PadMaker. I had one of the pads set to not repeat, but it did repeat when I hit the button on the Genos.

I was able to fix this in the Genos Step Editor. So between PadMaker and the Step Editor, I was able to get the job done.
retired software developer and Computer Science instructor
Grateful Deadhead emeritus

"He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt."
-- Joseph Heller, Catch-22

Joe H

Michael,

If there is a bug in PadMaker-Midi, please report it to the author.  I'm still running an older version and have not used it for awhile. There should be a link in the program to report bugs to the author via his email.

Joe H
Music is the Universal Language!

My Article: Using Multi Pads in registrations. Download Regs, Styles & MPs:  http://psrtutorial.com/music/articles/dancemusic.html

Michael Trigoboff

QuoteIf there is a bug in PadMaker-Midi, please report it to the author.  I'm still running an older version and have not used it for awhile. There should be a link in the program to report bugs to the author via his email.

Good suggestion. Done!
retired software developer and Computer Science instructor
Grateful Deadhead emeritus

"He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt."
-- Joseph Heller, Catch-22

JohnS (Ugawoga)

Quote from: Joe H on February 21, 2022, 02:04:42 PM
John,

Since the topic will not go away I will pursue this issue further.  German law may not allow the software to be hacked or reverse engineered.  I what found previously is that if Klaus had relatives they now own the copyrights.  If there is no family claiming ownership then a German agency owns the copyrights.  I don't know the name of that agency and if this is true, the questions are:

1. Will they give or sell the copyrights to a computer programmer.

2. Is there a computer programmer that is willing to remove the copy protection and fix the bugs?

3. Is there a computer programmer willing to provide a PIN2 with KeyGen software to people who own the program already?

It will take awhile to get these answers but I will try in the next few weeks.

NOTE: I think it is possible that Klaus himself used KeyGen software to create the PIN 2 that allows the software run.

Joe H


Hi Joe
It would be great if a Programmer took this program on board and also to improve it.
Pigs might fly  i'm afraid. But you never know.

All the |best
john :)
Genos 2     AMD RYZEN  9 7900  12 Core Processor 32 ram,   Focusrite Scarlet 4i4 4th Gen.

Michael Trigoboff

It turns out that the bug I reported in PadMaker-MIDI was actually my mistake. There is no bug.

Sorry for the false alarm.
retired software developer and Computer Science instructor
Grateful Deadhead emeritus

"He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt."
-- Joseph Heller, Catch-22

Joe H

Michael,

Around here we call that a "User Error"

;D

Joe H
Music is the Universal Language!

My Article: Using Multi Pads in registrations. Download Regs, Styles & MPs:  http://psrtutorial.com/music/articles/dancemusic.html

Michael Trigoboff

QuoteAround here we call that a "User Error"

Yep, and I am that user!  :)
retired software developer and Computer Science instructor
Grateful Deadhead emeritus

"He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt."
-- Joseph Heller, Catch-22