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audacity - change pitch question

Started by dr4sight, March 06, 2021, 11:11:55 AM

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dr4sight

I've never been good at changing the key of the song I'm playing but know Audacity allows for changing pitch.  Most of the time when I highlite the parts I want in the new pitch and then listen to the result it seems to come out tinny and sped up (sort of like the old Alvin and the Chipmunks songs).
Are there special tips to making the pitch change work?  Must I then change the playback speed and , if so, by how much?

thanks for tips you can provide,
Larry

Fred Smith

Quote from: dr4sight on March 06, 2021, 11:11:55 AM
I've never been good at changing the key of the song I'm playing but know Audacity allows for changing pitch.  Most of the time when I highlite the parts I want in the new pitch and then listen to the result it seems to come out tinny and sped up (sort of like the old Alvin and the Chipmunks songs).
Are there special tips to making the pitch change work?  Must I then change the playback speed and , if so, by how much?

Tell us why you have to use an audio file.

Changing the key with a midi file, or just when playing the keyboard, is simplicity itself.

Cheers,
Fred
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ckobu

Quote from: dr4sight on March 06, 2021, 11:11:55 AM
I've never been good at changing the key of the song I'm playing but know Audacity allows for changing pitch.  Most of the time when I highlite the parts I want in the new pitch and then listen to the result it seems to come out tinny and sped up (sort of like the old Alvin and the Chipmunks songs).
Are there special tips to making the pitch change work?  Must I then change the playback speed and , if so, by how much?

thanks for tips you can provide,
Larry

Hi Larry,

It's simple. First select the entire melody (Ctrl + A) and then select Effect> Change Pitch.
You can also change the key online on this page.

https://vocalremover.org/

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Fred Smith

Quote from: ckobu on March 06, 2021, 11:37:28 AM

It's simple. First select the entire melody (Ctrl + A) and then select Effect> Change Pitch.
You can also change the key online on this page.

https://vocalremover.org/

Larry understands you can do all those things, but that doesn't change the fact that the result sounds like the Chipmunks. How do you stop that from happening?

Cheers,
Fred
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Sun Lakes, AZ
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ckobu

Quote from: dr4sight on March 06, 2021, 11:11:55 AM
I've never been good at changing the key of the song I'm playing but know Audacity allows for changing pitch.  Most of the time when I highlite the parts I want in the new pitch and then listen to the result it seems to come out tinny and sped up (sort of like the old Alvin and the Chipmunks songs).
Are there special tips to making the pitch change work?  Must I then change the playback speed and , if so, by how much?

thanks for tips you can provide,
Larry

Larry will answer, but for now he has written that the song is accelerating. If so, use the wrong Transpose method.

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dr4sight

Fred is correct.  I understand the way to change the pitch but mostly don't like the result. The sound is different from the rest of the song. What I am looking for is the way to change the key without having to use a bunch of chords I am unfamiliar with.

Larry

ckobu

Quote from: dr4sight on March 06, 2021, 11:11:55 AM
I've never been good at changing the key of the song I'm playing but know Audacity allows for changing pitch.  Most of the time when I highlite the parts I want in the new pitch and then listen to the result it seems to come out tinny and sped up (sort of like the old Alvin and the Chipmunks songs).
Are there special tips to making the pitch change work?  Must I then change the playback speed and , if so, by how much?

thanks for tips you can provide,
Larry

Hi Larry,

in the first post you pointed out twice that the song changes speed. You mentioned Audacity. So I assumed you were using Audio File and trying to transpose it.
If you want to do this with a MIDI file, you don't need Audacity. You can do this directly on the keyboard. Describe a little better what you actually want and you will get a precise answer.

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Fred Smith

Quote from: dr4sight on March 06, 2021, 12:48:39 PM
Fred is correct.  I understand the way to change the pitch but mostly don't like the result. The sound is different from the rest of the song. What I am looking for is the way to change the key without having to use a bunch of chords I am unfamiliar with.

If you're doing it on the keyboard, Larry, just use the transpose button.

Cheers,
Fred
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Sun Lakes, AZ
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dr4sight

I can use the transpose button if I'm playing for myself.  But I record many of my songs.  The transpose button does not function on the DGX-650 while recording.

Larry

ckobu

It's a little clearer now what you want. Unfortunately, the DGX-650 does not enter the Transpose control when recording a song (Figure 1). I suggest you do it on your computer in the PSRUTI program. (picture2)

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dr4sight

I think I've figured out what I was doing wrong.  I wanted to raise the key by 2 half tones and altered the wrong box (see attached). When I left that box alone and adjusted the "semitones" box I got the desired pitch change without octave changes (obviously).
Thanks to all who left their thoughts on this thread.
Your time and expertise is appreciated.

regards,
Larry

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