XGWorks - Genos Instrument Definition?

[Wil5560]

Sorry if this question has been raised before....I could not find it yet through the search function.

So my question is for those still using XGWorks, do you also have the Genos instrument definition data to be installed and used with XGWorks?

thanks for your replies and help

[beykock]

I am afraid the XGW Genos patch will never be made ... but ... who knows.
Install the Tyros5 Voice List patch instead. That might help you out.


Wished there was an XGW update for modern Yamaha arrangers.
I am almost sure that dream will never come true unless somebody out there is willing to make a brand new program with XGW features and applications.
A CRY IN THE DESERT. 

XGW is the best midi sequencer ever made for Yami arranger keyboards.
Aber ... das war einmal.

Good luck, Babette

[metcam]

Here is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EEIqWnbD04


Thanks to : Casper tutorSynth


https://www.youtube.com/user/tutorsynth/videos

Regards

[Janus]

I am afraid the XGW Genos patch will never be made ... but ... who knows.
Install the Tyros5 Voice List patch instead. That might help you out.


Wished there was an XGW update for modern Yamaha arrangers.
I am almost sure that dream will never come true unless somebody out there is willing to make a brand new program with XGW features and applications.
A CRY IN THE DESERT. 

XGW is the best midi sequencer ever made for Yami arranger keyboards.


Aber ... das war einmal.

Good luck, Babette

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The only thing you can do
Take a look how the tyros 5 ini is build
Take a look on the Genos voice list
Add the missing voices to the Tyros 5 ini

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Go for Cubase and you will not look back
Even VST  will put you  to the Skies is the limit!!
Just have to spend a few pennies

[beykock]

Hi John :

It is not so easy to compare XGWorks with Cubase.
Two completely different DAWS though.

It is hard to understand why Steinberg never updated XGW but maybe legal ( copyright ?) rules might be the reason since
XGW originally has been made by a third party and not by Yamaha, one said.

Babette

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi   babette

Cubase is daunting at first ,but after a few weeks it gets better and then you learn day at a time .
It has taken me six months to get used to Cubase .
You make a song on the Genos sequencer and import it to cubase ,change track properties to match the Genos  and it is all go
All daws are similar . It is just getting used to something new which frightens people
Cubase is far better than XGworks
Cubase has a control room also and you can use that to compare original songs to your own when mixing and get the right LUF's -14db to master for the internet sites as they regulate the loudness  of songs today.
Yes , i have had a few four letter words at Cubase , but it is usually pilot error

My bug bear is Mixing and mastering , but slowly i am getting there at 69.
Have three songs shortly to show , Mr Blue Sky , Going Loco In Acapulco and Free's My Brother Jake.
Just in final stages of mixing them.
I am doing these sort of tunes to get the experience to write my own which is the next step for me hopefully.


All the best
John

[beykock]

Hi John :

IMHO XGWorks is the best MIDI Daw ever made for Yahama arranger keyboards.

Babette

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Babette
We cannot live in the past .
I was mad when Native Instruments stopped updates for Pro 53.
We have to move on and now have Arturia collection  as a Covid 19 stay indoors present to myself.
Cubase is great with Genos. So many things to learn inside.
Start off with the basic version and see how it goes.
I bet soon that my Focusrite first edition sound box will go downhill when Windows updates and no more new drivers are made. Ok at the moment.
Everything these days is time lasted for so many years and then bonk . It goes down!! Profits for the companies.


All the Best
John Keep walking on Sunshine

[beykock]

You are absolutely right, John, I am living in the past but ... I love it ! The good old times ! 😀

Best regards, Babette

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi
I am 69 "Back To The Future " for me!!!

[Oldden]

Just a link I found on the net.
Seems to work but not tried opening files.Very  Old stuff, so is it legal or not ?

http://happyharry.net/yamaha/xgworks/

[pieterpan]

Hi Oldden,

Try to downlaod these files mentioned on this page - but none of them are good. Is there a solution to get the proper files?

Regards <> Piet

[ckobu]

Watch the video.
https://youtu.be/qkhny8l_niw

[Oldden]

Hi,
The link was an old one I had saved from a long while ago. If I remember I downloaded and used the pro version, so I've no idea what has changed but as I say it's old. Never tried this time to extract the zip files as I'm using an iPad and before it was windows 7 or even an older Windows so there is no chance. Someone might know a solution if there is one.
Oldden.

[pieterpan]

Hi,

It's a pitty but thanks for the reply.

Regard <> Piet

[Oldden]

Not tried , no point on a iPad, but seen a possible link...

https://archive.org/details/YamahaSOL2

[pieterpan]

Hi Oldden,

This time the download works - thanks a lot for your effort.

Have a nice weekend, regards <> Piet

[Oldden]

Hi Pieter,
Just a bit of info for you.
If you decide to install SOL2 . Install it from the sol directory not from the main one. It's easier.
You will get three boxes which you have to fill in, the labels will be in Japanese. You type in in English.
Top box ......a name.....any name.
Middle box....company name......optional.
Bottom box......serial number.

Not looked at it for a very long time, but if I remember. It's in English.
Best of luck if you try it.

[pieterpan]

Oldden - Thanks for the tips.

[C-clef]

The zip file uncompresses into three files.

Two of them are .iso files, i.e. CD images, and for best results should be burnt to CDs.
Then, once loaded into your CD drive, the contents can be seen.
The installation can then take place, as Oldden has described, from the first CD.

The third file, a .txt file, contains the serial number.
How this got into the public domain I don't know, but once released to one, it's obviously made the rounds around the world.
I know, via the internet, the original owner of this copy of the program, and it's the copy of SOL2 that I use from time to time.

The program dates back form around 2003, i.e. before Windows 7, 8 or 10, and it's therefore to be recommended that you install it, and run SOL2, in Windows XP compatibility mode.

Since it's only from the early part of the century, it doesn't contain any of the .ini files for Yamaha keyboards, pianos, etc. from beyond this period.

Hope that's of some help?

Colin.

P.S. If you have problems with creating CDs from the iso files, drop me a PM and I'll see what I can do!  ;-)

[overover]

Hi Colin,

thanks for your suggestions!

A little addition: On Windows 10 and 8/8.1, iso files can be mounted directly (as a virtual CD drive): Just double-click on a iso file to mount it (or right-click on it and select "mount" from the context menu):

>>> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/mount-an-iso-image-in-windows-vista/amp/

Best regards,
Chris

[C-clef]

Thanks for that tip, Chris, didn't know that.
I'm still on Win 7 pro (x64).

BTW, there's a bit of info on the program and what's in it, and about installation over at the MIDI tutorials site, here:
https://midi-tutor.proboards.com/board/25/sol2

The posts made by Henry are full of information, plus a description of installation.

Colin.

[Joe H]

Just a link I found on the net.
Seems to work but not tried opening files.Very  Old stuff, so is it legal or not ?

http://happyharry.net/yamaha/xgworks/

Has anyone successfully opened any of these zip files? I get a message when trying to unzip any of these files that they are not archive files. Iv'e tried with WinRAR and 7zip.

Joe H

[Janus]

I Have Win 10
I can open the Files

I did try it first on win 7 and get the same fault
Gr.Jan

[overover]

Has anyone successfully opened any of these zip files? I get a message when trying to unzip any of these files that they are not archive files. Iv'e tried with WinRAR and 7zip.

Joe H

Hi Joe,

these are either deliberately created FAKE files or files that have become corrupt for some reason.

I downloaded three of these files (one PDF and two ZIP files) and opened them in a HEX editor: The files only contain a huge amount of empty (00) hex bytes (and of course you can NOT do anything with them) ...


Best regards,
Chris

[Joe H]

I Have Win 10
I can open the Files

I did try it first on win 7 and get the same fault
Gr.Jan

I just tied again on my Win10 machine with WinZip; I get the same message... these are not an archive file. The pfd manual and XG font file DO open correctly though.

Joe H

[pieterpan]

Hi,

I use W10, downloaded the files and no problems unpacking the archives and the ISO files. There's nothing wrong I suppose.

Regards <> Piet

[Janus]

I just tied again on my Win10 machine with WinZip; I get the same message... these are not an archive file. The pfd manual and XG font file DO open correctly though.

Joe H

Don't use winzip
Just start the file with the Mouse
The file opens copy those files to an  empty dir
An iso file is a file to write on a Cdr
After writing you can open the cdr and see the files

[C-clef]

I think we're talking at cross purposes here.

The files at HappyHarry.net are all empty, or rather they contain a huge block of zeroes.
(Well, the ones I looked at did.)

The zip file that is at the Internet Archive, i.e. archive.org, see Oldden's post (reply #16) is the genuine thing.
The file contains the two .iso images of the original SOL2 installation CDs and a text file of the registration code.

That's the one.
Henry's post at the MIDI Tutor site I quoted above, and Oldden's too here,  shows how to install.

Colin.