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Genos styles Quality : some thoughts

Started by Luluc, February 11, 2020, 02:04:29 PM

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mikf

There have been any improvements in styles and how they an be edited, and other things that can be done to make them fit your individual song. So although we will see even more flexibility going forward, what we have now is already pretty good.
The most important part of the style for generic playing is the bass and rhythm, and I often prefer to cut the styles back to not much more than this. The truth is that nearly all live bands are 3 piece or less, so a bass and rhythm track is actually quite realistic. Lulac seems to want something that sounds more like a full studio backing, but that is actually not what happens in live music in a club or restaurant, unless they use midi backing tracks, then it really is not live music.
If I were playing covers for a living, like I used to, I might do much more to make the style sound like the original recording, or use midis. But like most people who buy arrangers, I play at home, sit down and think of a song, play it then move on to another. The styles are excellent for my purposes, and for the vast majority of buyers. I actually don't like busy styles, because they suddenly have brass riffs or strings or whatever at all the wrong places.

Mike
     

dinapoli

We have different opinions about arrangers, for whatever is worth let me put my two cents in. 

I learned how to play on an Hammond organ, I played bass with my feet.  It was a workout just to play bass, I didn't need to go to the gym!

When I played out I used a Farfisa, a DX7 and a Crumar, I took along a portable bass pedal. I used a Roland Drum machine.  I used a leslie speaker and Shure columns. it took a while to set-up and break down, since I worked alone I needed to stay fit!  Those days required a musician to be in great shape!

Along came the modern Arranger, I used many of them. The better the arranger the lazier I became, before you know I was just singing to midi files, sometimes I can do a job with just two laptops!

Do we want an Arranger to play it, or do we want an Arranger that after we push a note it can play an Intro while we brush our teeth?

Toril S

LOL😀😀😀 Thanks for the funny picture in my mind of you sitting behind your Genos brushing your teeth!😀😀😀
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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Fred Smith

Quote from: dinapoli on February 07, 2021, 11:13:04 AM

Do we want an Arranger to play it, or do we want an Arranger that after we push a note it can play an Intro while we brush our teeth?

We want an arranger that supports whatever way we want to play the keyboard. The more ways, the better.

Cheers,
Fred
Fred Smith,
Saskatoon, SK
Sun Lakes, AZ
Genos, Bose L1 compacts, Finale 2015
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dinapoli

For many of us who played keyboards that went out of tune as we played them or after transported them from cold to a hot place, for many of us who played with drum machines that were "programmable" appreciate the quality of the Genos.

Does it make much difference from my Tyros 1 the way I play?  I don't know, I find myself going back to my old styles!

I purchased some styles called "SONG STYLES" I use a few of them just for the Intro, they have a perfect Intro for the song, I can't play with that perfection each and every time, many times I prefer to sing the song/play the song with a different style, I get bored singing the same song with the same style all the time.

In the past I tried making my own styles.  After spending days making it, my "creation" was very similar or a bad copy of many styles all over the Internet

I only use, maybe 40% of the potential of any keyboard I owned.

Visually a person playing the Genos on a stage is poor, doesn't compare to a person surrounded with many keyboards, but the sound is great!

Enjoy making music!