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Software similar to chord tracker

Started by marcodg, October 15, 2019, 04:01:23 AM

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marcodg

Hello everyone
Could someone help me find a software that can read chord from audio wav or mp3 files ?
I am searching it for some music i couldn't detect exactly with chord play. I tried the chord tracker but it just give me wrong chord (just basic chord. No diminished or augmented chord).
I want to play the song version white christmas for Demiss Roussos.
I could not even find score from this score. It would be easier in this way.
If anyone could help.
Thanks
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Duurduur

I always use Riffstation. It is now free software. Google this name.
I hope this will help you.

Ruud
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marcodg

Quote from: Duurduur on October 15, 2019, 09:23:08 AM
I always use Riffstation. It is now free software. Google this name.
I hope this will help you.

Ruud
Thanks Ruud
I will try it.
Regards
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DrakeM

I went looking for Riffstation this afternoon and only found sites saying it was no longer available for download. Seems they have closed up shop.

I did find a download of it using Bit torrent.

If you want it let me know. I haven't installed it but the notice on it was a TRUSTED user and I scanned it (it was clean). I will probably never use it, as I just figure my song out by ear if I can't find the chords on line or the sheet music at the Musicnotes site.

https://www.musicnotes.com/

Regards
Drake

zofman


panos

https://chordify.net/chords/demis-roussos-white-christmas-lorlive

This one is similar to chordify:
https://chordu.com/

Usually all chord tracker programs is hard to detect the exact correct chords like diminished or augmented or any more sophisticated chords that you want, unless someone took the time to correct them on chordify or on other sites.

Start with the right key of the song and some of the chords that will be missing,
they will be somewhere in there if you look what keys your right hand is hitting.

marcodg

Hello everyone and thank you so much for all answer. I try all the apps you listed. It s exactly the same problem with chord tracker. The sophisticed chord are not detect. I think i will try to detect it by ear.
I will use chordify with other song. Anyway it will help me a lot.
@DrakeM can you send me your link ? I will try it to.
Thanks a lot
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Tyros5Mad

Some time ago I came across some plugins called Vamp Plugins. There's one called Chordino which can extract chords from an MP3 or Wav file and do other things. I never actually tried it so let us know if you do try it.

If you happen to have Band in a Box 2018 or 2019, it has an Audio Chord Wizard.

There are many others on the net. Just search for audio chord detection.

Regards,
Richard


Duurduur

Another one is: Yamaha Chord Tracker for Android (Play Store) or iOS. I have tried the one for Android and worked very well. I am really impressed.

Ruud
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mikf

I know this is a little off topic but why jump onto a software solution to find chords. I know not everyone can learn to play well enough by ear to find chords in real time. But finding them off line for most songs is something everyone can do. Most songs follow simple repeated sequences, and you just hum the tune in your head while trying chords till you hear a fit. It's usually obvious when a chord is right or wrong. Probably less than 5 % of popular songs have  difficult chord progressions and White Christmas is definitely not one of them. This trial and error method will get easier and easier if you work on it.  And it will make you a much better musician. Frankly after a short time I believe most people could do a better job than these programs.
Mike

marcodg

Quote from: mikf on October 16, 2019, 10:38:06 PM
I know this is a little off topic but why jump onto a software solution to find chords. I know not everyone can learn to play well enough by ear to find chords in real time. But finding them off line for most songs is something everyone can do. Most songs follow simple repeated sequences, and you just hum the tune in your head while trying chords till you hear a fit. It's usually obvious when a chord is right or wrong. Probably less than 5 % of popular songs have  difficult chord progressions and White Christmas is definitely not one of them. This trial and error method will get easier and easier if you work on it.  And it will make you a much better musician. Frankly after a short time I believe most people could do a better job than these programs.
Mike
Hello Mikf
I am if i can say a self-made beginner keyboarder. I don't have hability to detect by ear all chord from a music. The version of white Christmas of Demis Roussos is the one i like the most but the chord of this version are a little different from the classic version. I play it with my taste and i know i could spend a lot of time and find all the chord played myself but if i could get help from a SW why not ? i think this forum is composed from beginner keyboard player to expert Pianist. So it is easier to ask for help here.
So i will thank you if you could help me in this way and give me the chord progression (sheet music) from this version of white christmas. I will really appreciate it.
regards  ;)
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DrakeM

The thing about learning to figure out chords by ear, in my opinion, in the beginning you need someone to correct your mistakes. Hearing a minor chord was something that took a bit of time to hear. Being in a band with people who were better than myself in the beginning was very helpful.

What you could do to learn to hear the chords of any song is to use a program like "Digital Music Mentor". This is an obsolete program but I can and have shared here before. This program will tell you what tuning to set your keyboard at (440 being standard) based on the MP3 you are using. It will tell you the KEY and the TEMPO of the song as well. If the song changes KEYS or has major tempo changes in it the info is sometimes wrong. In such cases you simply cut your MP3 file into smaller sections for the program to analyze.

With that correct information you could then try and figure the song out by ear using your keyboard. Once you think you have the chords correct then match it up to the sheet music and see if you are correct and/or what you missed finding. It might be best to have the sheet music first and suggest using the site "Musicnotes.com" as you can see all the sheet music pages online free.

I play the keyboard with the 3 finger chord AI feature (using C, C7, Cm and Cm7) and have no problem playing any song. If you need to play more than those chords you can play it in your right hand.

I'm just offering another option of how to get the job done. ;)

Regards
Drake

mikf

Quote from: marcodg on October 17, 2019, 12:09:40 AM
I don't have hability to detect by ear all chord from a music. 
You don't have to detect all the chords from the music. You hum the tune to yourself and play a chord - and hear if it sounds right. It is trial and error, phrase by phrase. And not as difficult as it sounds because most chords are so obvious from the progression, only the odd chord here and there is difficult and takes couple of seconds. For example, you mention here that you think there is a diminished chord missing from the music sheet.  Well there are only 3 diminished chords in the whole keyboard - has long does it take to try 3 chords at the point you think it should exist and hear the match. Maybe 2 seconds.
The other thing is that people need to simplify their overall thinking about chords and the songs. Think in terms of numbers - in key of C chord 1 is C, chord 2 is D min, chord 3 is E min. There are only 7 notes and this becomes key independent so you dont need chord charts. Common sequences are 1, 6 , 4, 5 or 1,2, 4, 5. This is the way that musicians think about this so its very simple. There are fancy names for this system like the Nashville numbering system, but in my opinion to give it a fancy name raises it to a level where it seems complicated, when in fact it is just simple, obvious logic. And most music harmony ( chords) in popular music is simple. People make it too complicated by not thinking the right way..
My point is that I dont want to give you the chords, - I want you to learn how to do this for yourself. Give a man a fish ....etc etc . If you never try, you will never get better.
You already have a sheet you think is incorrect at some points. Just sit down and at the points it sounds 'off' try other logical chords until you think it sounds right. Then note the change on the sheet.
Mike
BTW - I listened to the Demis Roussos version and I didn't hear anything very different chord wise from what I would normally play for this song.
     

DrakeM

I listened to the Demis Roussos version and the intro solo is using some extra different chords. When he starts to sing the song the chord progression then follows the regular arrangement for the song. His arrangement does have an accented odd drum beat inserted into the song.