New firmware for Genos, including chord looper, in October 2019?

[EB5AGV]

According to a reliable source (they should now, as they sell lots of Yamaha gear), there will be a new update to Genos in October, which will include chord looper

That for me would be a v2.0 update, bringing new SX900 features (and more) to the Genos.

Will it really happen?. And in October?. Let's see  !!!

Jose

[Bachus]

Maybe, maybe not..

I think we will first see a 1.5 version..

[BartW]

Excellent news. The chord looper will be a much appreciated and needed feature! I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

[Lee Batchelor]

What exactly does a chord looper do? I know it seems obvious but can someone give an example? Don't the styles already do chord looping until we change the chord in the left hand? I'm confused as to the difference.

[ton37]

Hi Lee, pls. look here? The vid. shows you how e.g. a Chord Looper can be used ..

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,51330.0.html

Maybe this is helpful for you?

[Lee Batchelor]

Thanks, Ton37. I get it now. Guitar players have this in some of their effects boxes. They play a four-bar riff (for example), which is recorded and the effect box loops the four bars while the guitarist plays along with his or her own riff. Slick! Thanks again...

- Lee

[ton37]

Exactly Lee, when one want to play a fast solo with a lot of joystick actions and quick chord changes, then it is a welcome feature. Kind of third hand ..

Explanation in text: As soon as you press the 'Record Chord L.' button, he will record the chord progression that you will then play. Until you press the 'Chord L. stop' button. You have then recorded a piece of music (only the chords). Now you can use the other button 'Chord L. on / off' to play (ON) or stop (loop) that loop. As long as the Chord Looper plays the Loop you have the entire keyboard at your disposal for a solo part. As soon as you set Chord Looper to 'OFF' you will be back to normal status ...

[terryB]

hi What length of sequence can be recorded? I've got a Roland synth guitar pedal and, if I remember correctly, it can record a sequence up to 1min 20 secs.

Cheers
Terry

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi
What about fills ??

Would you have to do that via footpedal or manual?

It would be usefull if you need an extra pair of hands for different buttons or bend joystick.
I suppose a quick route to a recording, giving you ample time for practicing.
The thing is , would it make you more lazy??
That's Technology!!!


All the Best
John

[ton37]

Hi
What about fills ??

Would you have to do that via footpedal or manual?

It would be usefull if you need an extra pair of hands for different buttons or bend joystick.
I suppose a quick route to a recording, giving you ample time for practicing.
The thing is , would it make you more lazy??
That's Technology!!!


All the Best
John

Hi John, In my humble opinion, technology must perform actions that are annoying, unnecessary or too complicated, etc. It must help 'people' to develop. With deployment, the creative boundaries should also be pushed or explored. And a technologically well-designed keyboard can help the musician with that. Not as a goal, but as a means to creative development. 

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Ton

Is this just a rumour of another update  or fact?
What about the Genos with a missing L button and how could a chord looper be implemented.
It would have to be a seperate little program in the seqencer section probably and a button that is already somewhere on the keyboard. Maybe a registration 10 button. Who knows!!

All the Best
John

[ton37]

Hi John, no speculation on my part. Maybe I translated it incorrectly, but I only philosophized on your post what I emphasized in the quote ... nothing more and nothing less  .

[pjd]

Hi John --

To me, "fact" is an official Yamaha announcement, like the last pre-announcement or the actual drop of the update file.

There are rumors of an October update. The last update appeared to be somewhat delayed -- the reason for the pre-announcement. Maybe Yamaha intended to add more (like chord looper) and missed their release date? Maybe they deciced to hold the chord looper in order to make a bigger splash with the SX900?

Marketing and release timing are always subject to change. I'll bet that the timing was murky even to Yamaha's internal teams until a final decision was taken. Release scheduling is not a science.

All the best -- pj

[Fred Smith]

Is this just a rumour of another update  or fact?
What about the Genos with a missing L button and how could a chord looper be implemented.
It would have to be a seperate little program in the seqencer section probably and a button that is already somewhere on the keyboard. Maybe a registration 10 button. Who knows!!

They could easily implement it by using two of the assignable buttons.

Cheers,
Fred

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Wecome to soapbox Corner,


Just been on Yamaha Keyboard Club and E'piano's where i purchased my Genos  here in the UK has a video talk on the  new keyboard.
I had a good listen to what the guy was sayng on the video as he went though the comparisons between this keyboard and the Genos.
He said that there will be a firmware update this October and hopes to see the Chord looper implemented and some other things.
So it looks like another update coming. This is coming from a well known dealer here in the UK. This seems to be solid evidence.

All the best
John

[Bachus]

Hi John --

To me, "fact" is an official Yamaha announcement, like the last pre-announcement or the actual drop of the update file.

There are rumors of an October update. The last update appeared to be somewhat delayed -- the reason for the pre-announcement. Maybe Yamaha intended to add more (like chord looper) and missed their release date? Maybe they deciced to hold the chord looper in order to make a bigger splash with the SX900?

Marketing and release timing are always subject to change. I'll bet that the timing was murky even to Yamaha's internal teams until a final decision was taken. Release scheduling is not a science.

All the best -- pj

If so, i guess it was a sx-900 splash thing..
Because it was one of its highlights

[Snicker740]

I do not know if this information is credible or not.
Because it's been 2 years since the first time Genos appeared.
However, I'm happy that people still hope that Yamaha will continue to exploit Genos hardware through software updates.

[Fred Smith]

I do not know if this information is credible or not.
Because it's been 2 years since the first time Genos appeared.
However, I'm happy that people still hope that Yamaha will continue to exploit Genos hardware through software updates.

The hope is well founded. Every update has brought new features.

Cheers,
Fred

[Bachus]

The hope is well founded. Every update has brought new features.

Cheers,
Fred

True, but so far the new features where kind of minimalistic compared to what Yamaha is doing for montage,modx an the cp88

But then there is allways hope the next update will be really big.

Untill then, i just enjoy my Genos as is...

[reya]

I wonder if Yamaha is going to officially announce the new software version (if there is one coming of course) with a video - same as they did with version 1.4 ....

For the moment it is still the 1.4 video on their website. And if I remember correctly that video was posted almost 3 months before the software version was actually released.

Best Regards
Rudy

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi

I heard from a music shop in UK that in October a new update is coming.
All very tight lipped at the moment.

All the best
john

[reya]

I wonder if Yamaha is going to officially announce the new software version (if there is one coming of course) with a video - same as they did with version 1.4 ....

Well, it seems they replied today . The video announcement is out.

The update is for Winter 2019, not october, about the same delay as with the announcement of 1.4

Gives a total new feeling to the sentence  'Winter is Coming' 

Best regards
Rudy

[Bachus]

https://youtu.be/KfrdEbbz1aM

Its official, Yamaha is doing it for the Genos..
Anhuge feature and content update

Kudos Yamaha

[acparker]

The memory expansion, frankly, has me worried.

1+ Gb memory addition sounds like a physical change to the keyboard to me, not a software update.

Unless of course, they optimized their code and found an 'extra' 1 Gb of space ...
or
The keyboard had that memory on board, but was unable to access it through the software...

I hope it is a software update because I really would like the style reset and chord looper updates.

Adam

[Lee Batchelor]

I'm curious about the 50 new styles and hope they aren't a bunch of EDM, Hip-Hop, or similar styles that are totally useless to me. I'd be happy if others can use them though !

The styles on the Genos are great, however, a lot of them have been re-worked from the Tyros series. It's nice that Yamaha gave us great new voicing and sound processing but putting a fresh coat of paint on old furniture isn't the same as buying new furniture - if you get my analogy. I'm also aware it takes a lot of effort and money for Yamaha to create new styles but new ones would be welcome !

[jwyvern]

All those extras start to look too good to be true. Where is the registered proof this came from Yamaha?

Also see another opinion

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,51887.msg405998.html#msg405998

Grumpy John

[Lee Batchelor]

Interesting how the V2.0 video is not on the Yamaha website, that I can find. The only one showing is V1.41. Why wouldn't they update their site to show V2.0? Unless they only show versions that are current. V2.0 isn't out yet and may not be uploaded to their site for that reason.

Is it on another website or did I just miss it? John makes a good point.

[reya]

The V1.4 introduction video was also spotted by people on this psrtutorioal website, before it appeared on the Yamaha website.

Behaps this will be the same. First on youtube, and a couple of days later on the official Yamaha website.

Best Regards
Rudy

[EileenL]

This update is not due out until Winter so you will not find it anywhere until then.

[jwyvern]

Quotes:
Astronomical Winter 2019 in Northern Hemisphere will begin on
Sunday, 22 December
and ends on Friday, 20 March 2020
All dates are in United Kingdom Time.

Meteorological Date starts Dec1 to February.

Take your pick 

John