Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...

Started by ton37, August 29, 2019, 07:13:50 AM

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ton37

My best regards,
Ton

beykock

Hi Ton :

Apparently you will buy yours in The Netherlands, right ?

If you have ordered it, it would be interesting for my friend to know your unit € net price and the name, place of your Dutch dealer, if it is possible for you to give the required information of course.

My friend lives in Etten Leur ( NL ) and has the intention to sell her S750 privately and to buy an SX900 in November / latest early December 2019.

Thanks for your feedback, Ton !

Bye for now,
Babette

ton37

Hi Babette,
There are a few large (international) Internet dealers (Bax, Thomann, Keymusic, Gear4music) on the keyboard market in the Netherlands. When someone in the Netherlands googles on the desired keyboard, you will automatically find those dealers advertising (incl. German / Belgian dealers). That also includes the prices of the desired keyboards. For the SX900 it currently fluctuates between € 2156 - € 2356. There are of course plenty of local dealers, who are also making good progress (Oostendorp, Joh.de Heer, MuziekhuisDera, etc.) The large internet dealers (usually) do not trade in and sell through their internet shop. The (smaller) local dealers often offer more / different service and you logically pay for it. The negotiation margin is not large for the SX900, at most a few hundred euros? This is because every advertiser wants to put down his lowest price on the internet. It is more difficult with an evt. in return. Many dealers would rather not trade in 'old' PSRs, because there is not much to be gained from that. Or you will receive very little in return. Ultimately, it is a one-to-one negotiation with your dealer. It just depends on what you choose, what appeals to you and what you have left for it.
My best regards,
Ton

Joe H

Yamaha is strict about dealers following the Manufactures Advertised Price (MAP).  Dealers can sell for far less if they wish to.

When I bought my PSR S910, my dealer had to get a special price from the Yamaha supplier to match the price of an eBay seller who was selling several S910s as "open box" and getting around the MAP.

Joe H
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beykock

Hi Joe and Ton :

Thank you for your feedback. Very interesting information.👍

Ton, I will send a copy of your message to my Dutch friend.
She told me her S750 will be sold soon.
Thank you, Ton !

To my knowledge US retail prices ( tax incl. ) are lower than European prices.

World's lowest Yamaha prices are found in Asia, I guess.

Thanks and best regards, Babette

ton37

Another demo if you are interested ...(piano + dowahbedoo + dist.guitar ), no talking ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv7sQ7XY9v8
My best regards,
Ton

Pino

Hi guys, sorry to disappoint you but my S910 sounds as good as that latest video.

So, it's got to be the player then, not the keyboard? 😀

Pino

ton37

Hi Pino, no I'm absolute not disappointed. On the contrary, I'm sincerely glad for you and I know that your/other Yammies sounds good too. I missed the DoWeDoWhab-sound in the former PSR, that was a reason to share this URL.  As I stated in other posts, the Yammies I owned (PSR Series) does all have a great sound quality. This post is about the new Yam-KB, and because there aren't still any other demo's because it is not been launched in USA/Europe we have to do it with the demo's from the Easter Region. So I have not intention to disqualify other Yammies. It is more curiousity to know all about a new toy. And besides the sound quality there are other features which have been added to each new Yammie-born  ;)
My best regards,
Ton

Pino

If I played a 'DoWeDoWhab' Song on one fo my gigs I would be the laughing stock of all my musician friend.
Maybe it's a home player thing then?

Pino

ton37

With all due respect Pino, but that also applies if you play a guitar solo in the middle of real guitarists. Or a trumpet for a brass band. You will also receive a comment on that. Not that I'm crazy about that DoBeDo sound, but because it indicates how far technology is able to make the sounds that people want. Whether or not they are used or not, that is a different matter. Why you write something derogatory about that homeplayer thing, that is a mystery to me. I don't care, but please leave. everyone in his value, right?
My best regards,
Ton

EileenL

On certain songs I have used scat voices and they have always gone down well. Used in short passages they work well.
Eileen

Patrick

Hi Ton, you can play DoWeDoWhab sounds (from T4 and T5) on the PSR S970; just put the voices on YEM and you can play all thèses voices but i don(t use theses voices often; i prefer also the guitars and accordion; all the best Patrick

To try 2 voices


panos

If I had had scat voices on my keyboard I would have got some ideas from here on how to use them in an not "embarrassing" way.At least for personal,home "usage" :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfRtFlCIO60&t=1743s

For playing for an audience of course it is always better to just stick to something like the old time classic and catchy "C chord to G chord and then to Am chord etc"  :)

Enildo

When word fail, Music speaks!

J. Larry

Well, finally a video showing-off the SX900.  Hopefully, there will be more forthcoming across the full range of styles and voices.  As a prospective buyer, I can read about all the features.  I want to see/hear what it sounds like from an experienced arranger player.  Lots of playing, with little to no talking. 

ton37

I came across another nice video. An enthusiastic talented guy (thank you guy  ;)) is trying out his new SX900 out of the box. Not as polished as a Yama-demonstrator, but this is what I like .. a nice Sunday afternoon jamming ... but don't expect classic evergreens  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWRFrh1OgWs
My best regards,
Ton

beykock

Hi SX900 friends :

IMHO Yamaha are launching " a second highend " keyboard arranger at a price that is approx. 50% lower than the price of the Genos.☝

I agree there are significant differences between both
" highends " but I am convinced many people, who have the intention to upgrade now or soon, will go for the SX900 and not for the Genos due to the price and the new features of the SX900.

I know most present Genos owners will disagree with my personal opinion. 😻

Everybody is respecting they have a complete other opinion, why not.

Time will tell what Yamaha's strategy will bring the market in the near future.

Will the Genos2 come at the end of 2020 or much later ?


Best regards,
Babette

EileenL

Although I agree the SX900 is a very nice keyboard and I have mine on order and will replace my 970. The Genos still has a lot more things you can do with it and really can not be compared with the smaller model. I don't expect we will see a new Genos for a couple of years yet. I am more than happy with my one. I expect I will not be the only one who will have both keyboards as for me a smaller keyboard is easier to take out.
Eileen

beykock

Congratulations, Eileen, with your new SX900 !💐

Maybe you gonna sell your Genos too, who knows.😉😋

Wish you a lot of fun !

Babette

EileenL

Babette,

Why on earth would I want to sell my Genos. I use this at home but as I said before a smaller keyboard is easier for me to take to small venues for care homes etc.

When you get yourself a Genos perhaps you will understand more why so many of us like it and are not wanting to get rid of it.

Your constant questions all about the same thing get a little tiring at times. Do you actually play.
Eileen

ton37

Quote from: beykock on September 08, 2019, 06:52:41 AM
Hi SX900 friends :

IMHO Yamaha are launching " a second highend " keyboard arranger at a price that is approx. 50% lower than the price of the Genos.☝

I agree there are significant differences between both
" highends " but I am convinced many people, who have the intention to upgrade now or soon, will go for the SX900 and not for the Genos due to the price and the new features of the SX900.

I know most present Genos owners will disagree with my personal opinion. 😻

Everybody is respecting they have a complete other opinion, why not.

Time will tell what Yamaha's strategy will bring the market in the near future.

Will the Genos2 come at the end of 2020 or much later ?


Best regards,
Babette
I disagree Babette. One can adore a (new) Yammie, but be careful not to tear down other models. Have respect for each other's choice for a certain keyboard. That choice is largely based on what he /she can and/or wants to afford . Once I owned a Genos and it was/is a superb keyboard with lot of features, great soundquality and lovely keybed and sooo flexible. The SX can't compete with the Genos. Of course the SX is a great machine, but it stands on its own and in the beginning of a new PSR-line. Don't forget the Genos was the very first of a new Yammie-design/-OT, that's his strenghts and weakness! That means that the roads are paved for the SX and the G2:  they will have it much 'easier' in technologic and production' perspective.
My best regards,
Ton

ton37

My best regards,
Ton

pjd

Quote from: ton37 on September 08, 2019, 01:27:41 PM
That choice is largely based on what he /she can and/or wants to afford.

Amen to that! I think it's really critical to think about one's needs and goals as a musician and to think about budget. Gosh, this applies to saxophones or kazoos, too.  :)

Comparing keyboard models is useful to the extent that it helps a musician find the most appropriate instrument. Comparison for comparison's sake is fun, but unfortunately, social media all too often gets into unproductive or negative discussions.

Hey, hey, post, but don't forget to play today!  :)

-- pj