Modified voices and other keyboards?

Started by Toril S, August 05, 2019, 01:26:00 PM

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Toril S

Hello friends! I am wondering: I have modified a voice on my S975. It had to be saved as a user voice. I understand that I have not saved the voice itself, but a file that tells the keyboard to apply my modifications. If I save this file on a USB, can it be used by other keyboards and sound the same? Trying to wrap my mind around this business :)
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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Joe H

Only if the "other" keyboard has the same exact Preset Voice.

Joe H
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Toril S

Thanks Joe H :) Guess that is why we have to "tweak" styles for our spesific keyboard. Some voices really sound funny. But it is a great feature that we can modify voices to our liking. I have started doing that with some voices.
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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Joe H

Toril,

I thought of something else that is a little different (another option) that may work for you... IF the Preset Voice is the same on the other keyboard.

Try using Jorgen's OTS Editor.  You can load a style into the program and Export or SAVE any of the 4 OTS settings; then load the OTS into another style file and have the same OTS with another style.

Joe H
Music is the Universal Language!

My Article: Using Multi Pads in registrations. Download Regs, Styles & MPs:  http://psrtutorial.com/music/articles/dancemusic.html

DerekA

Think of the voice file as containing two things : the name of a sample wave to start off with, and then a bunch of parameters to modify how the wave sounds.

The Yamaha S, Tyros and Genos series all use the same set of parameters (this is part of the XG specification). So, if you load the voice file on another keyboard then all the parameter modifications will be the same. But the voice will only sound the same if that keyboard has the exact same sample wave built into it.

Generally Yamaha adds new sample waves and keeps the old ones. So a voice created on say S910 has a good chance of sounding OK on Genos (which prboably has the same wave on it). But a voice created on Genos might not sound on the S910 (because it [probably doesn't have the same wave on it).

There are deeper complications, of course - like multi element voices, or SA2, etc - but this is the basic idea.
Genos

Toril S

Thanks Hoe and Derek for the excellent explanations!!
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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Joe H

Toril,

I gave pretty much the same explanation as Derek has above on another thread yesterday.

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,51063.msg399404.html#msg399404

Joe H
Music is the Universal Language!

My Article: Using Multi Pads in registrations. Download Regs, Styles & MPs:  http://psrtutorial.com/music/articles/dancemusic.html

Toril S

Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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pjd

Quote from: Joe H on August 05, 2019, 01:58:26 PM

Try using Jorgen's OTS Editor.  You can load a style into the program and Export or SAVE any of the 4 OTS settings; then load the OTS into another style file and have the same OTS with another style.

Joe H

+1 for Jorgen's OTS editor. I customized the OTS in all of my styles using his editor.

-- pj