Chord sequencer..

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi
It would just be good to record with a preset style ,step edit and then change the style to User.
Has Yamaha been notified about this??

Yamaha needs to make an Xg type program for the Genos and i would think people would pay for that.
You would think that such a pricey instrument such as the Genos it would have all these things.
I can only think that Yamaha do not want us to use user styles in a constructive way for some reason
Today I wrote to Yamaha about this, but will probably get a negative answer or the old clich'e "We will look into it and let you know"!!!
All it would need is a software update and it must be well within the Genos memory limits.


All the Best
John

[maartenb]

You can also use the PC program "Producer" to create accompaniment arrangements by just entering chords.

Thanks Chris! I looked at the program. While it has some very nice features, like colours for a verse and chorus, the "two chords per measure" is a showstopper for me.


Maarten

[maartenb]

You do need every beat a chord or more chordresolution?

Half beat resolution is fine with me for most of the situations. Quarter beat would be ideal. However, when Martin Harris plays jazz, he plays eighths and sometimes even sixteenths beat chord changes with his left hand. Truly amazing.

Being able to have three to four different chords per measure is a must for me. That would still be insufficient for Martin Harris playing jazz though...  By playing this way the keyboard sound disappears and a band sound appears.


Maarten

[Lee Batchelor]

As I read these posts about advanced requirements of our Genos keyboards, it seems some of us want features found in DAW software or on the Montage series. Yamaha is keeping a solid brick wall between those architectures. It looks like many Genos players have evolved WAY past the living room "stage."

I suspect Yamaha may start to address these desires in Genos II. Here's hoping. They can't delay some things like this for too long. If I'm right, there will be two forms of the Genos, sort of like there is now, but the home players will opt for the PSR version and the advanced players will want the Genos II with all the bells and whistles.

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi
Still cannot use user Styles with Producer and it has latency problems.
I messaged Yamaha and they wrote back to me saying they will now inform the tech boys that you cannot step record User Styles and they will look into it for a possible update.
I told them also about the note flack that gets left over when trying t make a clean recording.
This is all because you hit a chord a milli second out. Yes the Genos is really a machine. we are not perfect!!
To step chords would be perfect to avoid this problem.
Also as it means clearing the note partials and re-quantizing and also fill the gaps in.
Playing live nobody would notice , but record a song and you can hear strange artifacts like glipping and unwanted grace notes.
It can take quite some time looking at the 11 to 16 tracks getting the partials out.
Lucky there is a tool in Cubase to tell it what size note you want to clear  and when you highlight the track in question it removes all the horrible partials in one swipe. Then you have to fill the gaps in and quantize hopefully in the right direction, or you would get larger gaps!! .


All the best
John

[maartenb]

it seems some of us want features found in DAW software or on the Montage series.

No, not that high level. But a bit more than currently is available. Yamaha were (still are?) also aiming the Genos at a more professional audience, so with that come some more professional wishes.

No need for a Genos 2 for that. Can be implemented in the Genos with new firmware.


Maarten

[Lee Batchelor]

I hope you're right, Maarten !

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Maaten and Lee

I have informed Yamaha about the step edit situation and they have passed my message over to the tech guys for a possible future update.
Like i said in another post what is the point of a sequencer if you cannot do edits on a user style.
It is wrong that you only get system exclusive message track in the step edit chord section.
Also i think is wrong that Yamaha has not put out a dedicated XG type program for Genos users.
Cubase is near as you get , but it is really aimed at the VST user.
If they did, the advanced would be happy as the just sit and play users also.
I mean the ones that want to go a little deeper
I can only imagine it is something to do with copyrights, but a £4500 keyboard should have a top end back up.

Well, keep smiling


All the Best
john