Terrible news, Buying Genos Tomorrow

[panos]

3200 euros is a very good price indeed.
Probably about 400 euros down from the prices I see on internet right now.

From what I saw Abby for drums you can use audio files on Genos made on a pc.
For people that use DAW's is quite simple to create such drum parts with accurate tempo and length to fit exactly to the style's tempo.
Even record a playing of a real drummer if he is accurate enough to a specific tempo.
E.g playing at 130 tempo using a metronome or something to keep with the exact rhythm.
Not that you cannot still correct the tempo of an audio file without changing the pitch.
Programs on PC can do that also.

Whatever model you would choose there would be less or more time to spend making everything correctly again (styles/regs etc) so don't mind about it.

Looking forward for covers with Geno's when you are ready.☺

[DrakeM]

Seems to me if Abby wants his T3 drums all he has to do is download all the T3 styles from the PSRTutorial site onto a USB stick. Then connect his registrations to these styles and he will have is old Tyros 3 set up.

I have always set up every song I perform in my gig sets to a custom style (stored on a USB stick). So when I went from my PSR2000 to my PSR-S950 I had no issues continuing on with my new keyboard, I just needed to set up the over all EQ.

Heck, you know you're going to be moving onto another Yamaha keyboard sooner or later, it is best to be prepared to do so.

Regards
Drake

[DonM]

It's a fairly common thing to miss what you had, for many reasons, but primarily because you are used to hearing it.  Give the Genos a chance and be open to the fact that the sounds almost certainly are better, but may not be what you are accustomed to hearing.
Advice from an old worn-out pro.
Congratulations on your new tool.  It's NOT a toy. 

[Fred Smith]

The first two gigs went fairly ok though, even though I'll have to redo my registrations
in the coming days and weeks.
I'm not overly impressed with the drums.
But time will tell.

I sorely miss my T3, years of tuning the thing have gone to waste.
I'm off to play another gig right now.

Abby,

You need to destress. Stress is not good for your health.

You should be happy your old registrations worked. You were able to use your new keyboard immediately. I remember back in the .reg days, I had to throw away all my registrations. Took me weeks to redo them. Then came conversion programs. Now the keyboard accepts them directly.

Yes, they benefit from being tweaked, but you can do so at your leisure.

Open your mind, and you'll be impressed with what the Genis can do.

Cheers,
Fred

[valder]

It's been 4 months since I bought Genos, only joy has put an end to my stress.

[motekmusic]

Congrats Abby on your new Genos.

Completely understand challenges of adjusting to new sounds and especially a new operating system. 
Also have contended in the past with broken key strips.   Had an s910 and the A key bit the dust, so had to put in whole
new contact strip... However did not check the keys before closing the board to see that the Dflat was gone.
In the Home section of this site there still might be videos on how to replace those strips  DIY.

Hope you can post your new genos music soon.

cheers
elaine

[Pianoman]

Seems to me if Abby wants his T3 drums all he has to do is download all the T3 styles from the PSRTutorial site onto a USB stick. Then connect his registrations to these styles and he will have is old Tyros 3 set up.

I have always set up every song I perform in my gig sets to a custom style (stored on a USB stick). So when I went from my PSR2000 to my PSR-S950 I had no issues continuing on with my new keyboard, I just needed to set up the over all EQ.

Heck, you know you're going to be moving onto another Yamaha keyboard sooner or later, it is best to be prepared to do so.

Regards
Drake

I've taken your advice Drake and loaded my T3 styles and drums again, they hadn't loaded the
first time around.
I'm happy again.

Best Regards.
Abby.

[Pianoman]

It's a fairly common thing to miss what you had, for many reasons, but primarily because you are used to hearing it.  Give the Genos a chance and be open to the fact that the sounds almost certainly are better, but may not be what you are accustomed to hearing.
Advice from an old worn-out pro.
Congratulations on your new tool.  It's NOT a toy. 

Thanks Don.

I've installed my T3 styles and everything is hunky dory again.

Best Regards.
Abby.

[Pianoman]

My deepest sympathy on being forced to buy a Genos .  Especially at the price you paid, you poor guy!

Very funny Stephen.

[hans1966]

Hello Abby, my most sincere congratulations for your new keyboard. You are a great musician, and you deserve the best. Greetings. Hans

[stephenm52]

Very funny Stephen.

Abby I thought the post needed some humor.   All kidding aside congratulations on you being happy with being able to load your T3 styles.

[Kaarlo von Freymann]

With profound sadness I shall be buying a Genos at midday local time here.....
I have tried the Genos so many times and the more I play it, the more I dislike it....

Best Regards.
Abby.

Dear Abby,
sorry your Tyros broke down.  But it did serve you well for a long time, did it not ?  As you may remember I - unlike so many here - never felt the Genos sound was a "huge improvement"  and even posted recordings that I felt clearly showed  Tyros 5 and Genos sounded exactly the same (for which  I was awarded the honorary title of "Clown").

That said  I am confident you will be able to tweek your Genos so it will  - for all practical purposes - sound like your old instrument; not MUCH better but at least JUST AS GOOD AS.
Having dismantled several Tyros and Genos units I am afraid it is obvious that the Genos may not serve you for quite as long as the Tyros did and that starts with the finish of the case.  Cutting manufacturing costs is now-adays (more often than not) more important than durability.  My fridge  has been humming along since 1988, my daughter's  fridge was non-reparable after 5 years.
Posters here claimed the Genos keys are much better,   which again was b........ ; they are exactly the same, spare parts number included.  My Genos has the keys of  my Tyros 1  (weighted with cast inserts)  and they are just a little worn but function well.
But I am afraid all the posters giving us hope YAMAHA will take care of the long list of strange things having been listed on this forum may have been over-optimistic. 

So you better resign yourself to the fact that Genos will remain what it is,  a very good keyboard with  things that should be fixed.

Good luck Abby !

Cheers

Kaarlo

[EileenL]

There are Many Many people who are and have been happy with there Genos keyboards. Of course there will be differences noticed in sound and operation. Time is needed to get used to the new sounds as well as drums. This is an arranger keyboard and so you can do a lot to get it how you want it.
  I like many people bought my keyboard to sit and play it either at home or out gigging and have never had any problems since the updates. Yes there are a couple of things I would like to see that would save a little time when tweaking up things but there are always ways round these.
  Good luck to you Abby and in time I am sure you will be happy with your purchase.

[markstyles]

For me, the Genos sounded tinny compared to my Tyros 5.. But I quickly adapted to it..  I use it in a studio, and don't mess with it's EQ settings too often.  Of course with different speaker systems, one would be wise to try out different EQ and compression settings, because of the characteristics of your amp and speaker system.. One can easily compensate for initial reactions to its sound.

I'd feel very uncertain going into purchase something, that I wasn't excited about.  You're already setting yourself up for failure..  I understand your time constraints to have to get an instrument to keep working.  Just realize as with any purchase, each keyboard, piece of equipment is different on it's own merits.  A Genos IS NOT a Tyros..  I think like almost everyone riding the fence when they first got one, they will be happy, (some immediate, some take a week or two). 

Good luck, hope you find happiness with your Genos.  I also have great faith in Yamaha (since my first DX7).   They know how to make good instruments. a lot of very talented programmers, engineers, designers work on their products.. And they (like the other top manufactors) HAVE to pay attention to what people like and where musical trends are going.

Personally I have absolutely no use for EDM music.  But I understand why Yamaha added them.  If I was playing gigs, I might be forced to play that type of music.  But there is plenty of sounds, styles, in Genos to satisfy everyone.

[pjd]

Personally I have absolutely no use for EDM music.  But I understand why Yamaha added them.

Hi Mark --

I always enjoy your comments. Thanks.

I take a "Live and let live" or "To each her own" attitude toward styles and other content which I personally don't, and likely never, will use. Yamaha needs to sell a lot of keyboards to make back their investment and to turn a profit. If styles in genre XYZ make it possible to sell more keyboards and drive Yamaha's innovation, then I'm OK with that.

Cable TV packaging pricing, however...   

-- pj