Pitch Wheel not working

[Mendel]

Hello guys,

Just recently my pitch wheel has been behaving quite strange.
when i turn it just a drop up and down (more of like a vibrato for elec. guitar),
it will sound very strange, but going all the way up and down - it will sound just fine

anyone experienced this?


mendel

p.s i have not been jamming to hard with the pitch wheel

[rodrigo.b]

Hello guys,

Just recently my pitch wheel has been behaving quite strange.
when i turn it just a drop up and down (more of like a vibrato for elec. guitar),
it will sound very strange, but going all the way up and down - it will sound just fine

anyone experienced this?


mendel


p.s i have not been jamming to hard with the pitch wheel

I have the same problem 

[DrakeM]

Try setting the bend RANGE from 2 down to just 1.

[mikf]

Drake - I think it might be the other way round ie the range may need increased if he wants a bigger pitch change with less movement.

[alanclare]

I'm just in awe of anyone who actually uses the pitch wheel.

Alan

[Normanfernandez]

Can the Wheel be set to anything else?

Like Glide ?

Or Does it only do Bends

[Toril S]

Me too Alan!

[Dick Rector]

I'm just in awe of anyone who actually uses the pitch wheel.

Alan

once in awhile when playing "Shadows" music.

[Normanfernandez]

https://youtu.be/GCxk4TwHJQM

I've used it here
Shadows song.

[deepsae48]

Pitch Bend sound very strange because  10.0K ohm pot (Rotary Variable Resistor) was defective, it did not supply enough voltage to the AD converter,
For S950 - S750:  Ref No. VR 300 , Part No. WZ510000
For S970 - S770:  Ref No. VR 401 , Part No. WZ510000  , it's  $ 4.20 a piece + shipping
Part number are the same for S950 and S970 
You have to Create Consumer Account:   https://www.yamaha24x7.com/#/signin

How to replaced it :
Replace 10Kohm Rotary Variable Resistor for Yamaha PSR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJuIA3jDeWU

[alanclare]

Actually, I did use it once when I wanted to find out if I could:

Cherry Pink (and Apple Blossom White)

...but never again.

Alan

[DrakeM]

LOL ... I use the Pitch Wheel on pert near every song that I use a guitar voice for the lead and all the songs when I use the Pedal Steel Guitar voice for a lead. It works great with the Harmonic too. 

That Genos Pedal Steel Guitar sounds awesome with the wheel from the bit I have heard in demos.

And no I mean cut the range back to a range of 1, that way you can't screw the sound up. Each guitar voice is different as to how it reacts, you have to experiment each time to find which works best for what you are trying to do.

Regards
Drake

[deepsae48]

You can watch how  they used the Pitch Bend:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZoCvXv7b-I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32lTMqJYrks

[Mendel]

Thank you very much for your replies, much appreciated


Mendel

[andyg]

Pitch bend is an essential skill to learn for my lot! They start as soon as they have a keyboard that has a wheel. Usually set to 1 semitone, but as a trombone can slide up to a 4th, then it can be set to 5. For half valve slides like Cherry Pink, then 12 is OK, but there is a trick to making that sound correctly using pitch bend. As no-one else I know of knows how to do it and it took a while to work out and practise, I'm keeping this one to myself!

Thanks for the info on the part number, should I even wear mine out!

[SeaGtGruff]

12 is OK, but there is a trick to making that sound correctly using pitch bend. As no-one else I know of knows how to do it and it took a while to work out and practise, I'm keeping this one to myself!

Some Yamaha keyboards ignore the LSB value of Pitch Bend, plus the values generated by the Pitch Bend Wheel can vary more near the wheel's centered position and less near the extremes, resulting in a noticeable "stepping" effect that's especially obvious with larger Pitch Bend Ranges. So if you want to play a one-octave slide but keep any stepping to a minimum, set the Pitch Bend Range to 6, pull the wheel all the way down (equivalent to minus 6 semitones), play the key that's 6 semitones above where you want the slide to start, then try to smoothly move the wheel back up to the center and onward until it's all the way up (equivalent to plus 6 semitones). This could take a bit of practice to get just right, since you might need to move the wheel more quickly at the extremes, slowing down a bit as you approach the centered position, then speeding up again as you continue moving upward.

[travlin-easy]

Don Mason is the absolute Master with the pitch bend wheel.

As for the problem, do a master system restoration before doing anything else. You may have a corrupt registration or midi file that has caused the problem.

Good luck,

Gary

[Joe H]

Don Mason is the absolute Master with the pitch bend wheel.

As for the problem, do a master system restoration before doing anything else. You may have a corrupt registration or midi file that has caused the problem.

Good luck,

Gary

It's most likely NOT a registration problem but very well could be a glitch in the OS.  A keyboard reset may take care of the problem as Gary notes.  I've seen this problem on Yamaha sound modules.

Joe H

[deepsae48]

Please watch how the master used Pitch bend: Oye Como va
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK9Khwd1bhk
Black Magic Woman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGD3KNjwkFo

[andyg]

Some Yamaha keyboards ignore the LSB value of Pitch Bend, plus the values generated by the Pitch Bend Wheel can vary more near the wheel's centered position and less near the extremes, resulting in a noticeable "stepping" effect that's especially obvious with larger Pitch Bend Ranges. So if you want to play a one-octave slide but keep any stepping to a minimum, set the Pitch Bend Range to 6, pull the wheel all the way down (equivalent to minus 6 semitones), play the key that's 6 semitones above where you want the slide to start, then try to smoothly move the wheel back up to the center and onward until it's all the way up (equivalent to plus 6 semitones). This could take a bit of practice to get just right, since you might need to move the wheel more quickly at the extremes, slowing down a bit as you approach the centered position, then speeding up again as you continue moving upward.

That's all true, of course, but the trick I was referring to has more to do with the tune. Listen carefully to the notes on which Eddie Calvert starts and finishes the slide! 

[Mendel]

Let's get this thread to 2 pages! 

[Toril S]

Yes, give me a pitch😀