Sooner than later - Genos 61-

[tyrosman]

very Fake news it will Never Happen

[panos]

I would add some graphics to the beginning of that video the way Genos is moving around.
Maybe a sea,some waves,followed by smaller pictures of s775/975 and EW410...
The new flagship of Yamaha keyboards is coming!

[Toril S]

Why not? They made a Tyros 61, so why not a Genos 61 as well? Time will tell

[Pino]

Eventhough I prefere the buttons on the PSR's
I probably would buy one for the improvement in the sound department.

To me, an arranger keyboard is about styles, period.
If I was into playing/editing midi files then I would choose totally different equipment.

Most of the style editing stuff on the Genos is the same as all the other Yamaha keyboards from the past 20 years, I wouldn't be buying for that reason, we still cannot easily import a 'song intro',  style editing on board is clumbersome, connecting to a DAW is not easy and even though it's an 'arranger keyboard' Yamaha does not want to give us the tools to edit our styles, Yamaha Musicsoft has put a stop to that cos they want to make money from us also, but it's a fresh new keyboard.

Yamaha could have done a much better job in the editing department for this new range of keyboards that will probably be around for the next 15 years, but it is what it is.

If Yamaha would make a 61 then I probably would go for it. 

Pino

[Pino]

Ok Guys
Just to show you that it's not just
"talk the talk" sometimes we have to "walk the walk"

I've picked the hardest style that you would ever play on the keyboard
No timing, no chord track, no sheets, no edits, just sit down and play.
It's a one shot take so the balance is way out.
an a 10 year old PSR.
How much better would the Drums be on Genos?

Pino

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aukmf6F7rNaZmGh2hIBoNBO9ZBkL

[sunny]

Hi Friends,
           Whether this picture real or fake, but wan't to buy Genos 61-note keyboard.

Sunny

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[Lee Batchelor]

Very nicely played, Pino! To answer your question, sit down and play the exact same tune on a Genos. You'll be blown away - especially when you play that well ! The older PSRs sound great until you hear the Genos.

[Joe H]

It's fake for sure.  That guy does this all the time.  He is very good at graphics manipulation.  He had created a Tyros 6 a couple of years ago with some of his own add-ons...  He's just trying to get some attention and maybe make a few dollars at the same time.

Joe H

[Joe H]

Pino.

You demonstrate..."It's not what you got, but how you use it"

Very nice playing.  A good musician can make even an el cheapo keyboard sound good.  You get five smiles from me!


               

Cheers,
Joe H

[Linson]

Hi Pino.. Fanstastic Play and sound.. Curious  which is that 10 year old PSR that makes such a nice sound? Please share more.

[Pino]

Hi Linson

It was the S910, could be played on the 910, 950, or 970, you wouldn't notice much of a difference, styles are just a group of small midi files put in order so that the keyboard understands when to play them, in this case the midi part would be called a style part or a style variation,
I have some  Genos styles playing on my S910 without any problems, you just have to tune the style, eg, save new 'on board' instruments to the rhy1-rhy2-bass-chord-pad-ph1-ph2.   
Takes a little time till you get used to the work flow.

Sometimes people will buy a new keyboard without understanding the one they already got.

The S970 is better with guitars and modern music and the S910 is better with Big Band, orchestra and ballads, has a sweeter sound, IMHO

Here is a Big Band medley, nothing special, just a 'one take' using OTS as I would play on a gig, not that I play much Big Band.

https://app.box.com/s/fxftc5xfx5srhmt7m6v38ndk6ar53weg

Pino

[Pino]

Thank you Joe for your king words

I promise not to mention a 6 and 1 in any posts on this forum for evermore.

Best wishes

Pino

[Pianoman]

Pino.

You demonstrate..."It's not what you got, but how you use it"

Very nice playing.  A good musician can make even an el cheapo keyboard sound good.  You get five smiles from me!


               

Cheers,
Joe H

Hello Pino.

I will echo what Joe H has said here.

Very nice playing on both songs.

Best Regards.
Abby.

[Bachus]

The 61 key rumor comes from an April fools joke from a German dealer...

Misleading and not even funny, i must say, it also cought me on the wrong leg...

Makes me wonder how many people never bought the Genos because there is no 61 key version? Indon't think anyone that really wants/needs a Genos was kept away from it by the extra 15 keys...

[Kaarlo von Freymann]

Hi Linson


..... I have some  Genos styles playing on my S910 without any problems, you just have to tune the style, eg, save new 'on board' instruments to the rhy1-rhy2-bass-chord-pad-ph1-ph2.   
Takes a little time till you get used to the work flow........

Here is a Big Band medley, nothing special, just a 'one take' using OTS as I would play on a gig, not that I play much Big Band.

https://app.box.com/s/fxftc5xfx5srhmt7m6v38ndk6ar53weg

Pino

Thanks Pino, I enjoyed your BB medley, nothing special was an understatement. What one likes and what not is of course very dependent on what was played when you were under 30. So no heavy metal for me   Bu I believe what separates good from less good  is timing and phrasing.   The idea of using a program to put the timing 100 %  on spot is what destroys most any genre and some  people do that on their midi files whereas the real professionals that work for YAMAHA Soft do not commit that error. Some arrangers and some performers  were masters in this respect, Nat King Cole and Nelson Riddle immediately come to mind.

Cheers

Kaarlo

[Pino]

Thank you kaarlo and Abby

I haven't played any midi files for many years

I call playing an arranger keyboard in public 'stand up and fight'
Yes, fighting with the keyboard, styles, timing, chords notes,
In a 3 hour gig I will probably do about 10 minor mistakes

Now I have come to accept his,
it's not the mistakes that count but how quickly you can recover from a mistake.
Practice makes masters

Regards

Pino

[Linson]

it's not the mistakes that count but how quickly you can recover from a mistake.
Practice makes masters
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Well said, Pino

What is your thoughts on new PSR s975? Any chance to look into it more? Do you think it's worth waiting for Genos 61 key version or Go with s975? I have a 950 now

[EileenL]

There won't be a 61 note Genos but probably an S Series will come along in about a year or so.

[arvacon]

The wiser choice for now it would be to go for the s970, as its price has drop alot right now and also there are tiny differences with the s975. In case you don't care about the prices, then go for the genos.

[Pianoman]

Thank you kaarlo and Abby

I call playing an arranger keyboard in public 'stand up and fight'
Yes, fighting with the keyboard, styles, timing, chords notes,
In a 3 hour gig I will probably do about 10 minor mistakes

Now I have come to accept his,
it's not the mistakes that count but how quickly you can recover from a mistake.
Practice makes masters

Regards

Pino

Well said. I know how it feels.

Best Regards.
Abby.

[DonM]

What Yamaha ought to do is ADD one more button and put over by my LEFT hand.

That button would flip you over to the RIGHT 2 (only when selected) and silence RIGHT 1. Then if you taped it again it should go back to RIGHT 1, that would be slick.

There are a lot of times I would like to switch off while playing my lead as a guitar and flip it over to the Pedal Steel Guitar. I do it sometime by having the OTS set up but it is to tricky to get it right some times. Heck, I can't remember which OTS is the Pedal Steel  with all that is going on when performing. 

Regards
Drake

Drake, Ketron has had that function a long time.  On Roland you can do it with the Volume pedal.  For example all the way down is one sound, all the way up is the second sound, in the middle they are mixed.  I had a G800 YEARS ago that did that.
I think Ketron even has the ability to bring in the second sound by touch sensitivity, but I don't remember for sure.
Korg has programmable buttons that will do it.
Yamaha could easily do this!

[Lee Batchelor]

Is it my imagination, or has this discussion gone way off topic ?

[DonM]

Pretty much ot for the last couple of pages! 

[sunny]

There won't be a 61 note Genos but probably an S Series will come along in about a year or so.

Hi Eileen,
Yamaha made a Tyros 61, so why not a Genos 61 as well?

Sunny

[EileenL]

The Genos has been a great success as a 76 note keyboard and still lighter in weight than Tyros 5 and not much bigger than Tyros 5. I think they will concentrate on producing 61 note S Series. 

[Kaarlo von Freymann]

Well said. I know how it feels.

Best Regards.
Abby.

Definitely off topic, but let me just say how i envy anyone who makes so few mistakes.

BTW Oscar Peterson visited my university in the 1950ies  and we bloody amateurs had a chance to talk to our idol after his concert. He said: "Whenever you make a mistake, repeat it several times and people will think it was an intentional improvisation." I said, "Sir, I have a lot of your records, have not noticed one mistake."  The great master smiled, "Which proves my advice was correct".

Cheers

Kaarlo

[Pino]

Mistakes are distractions

Sometimes when I'm playing in the restaurant in the evening, when a beautiful blonde walks across the dance floor carrying them big jugs of drinks in front of her,
That's one real distraction 

[sunny]

The Genos has been a great success as a 76 note keyboard and still lighter in weight than Tyros 5 and not much bigger than Tyros 5. I think they will concentrate on producing 61 note S Series.

If Genos 61 is produced, it will be still lighter than Genos 76 and same size of Tyros61.

[Gunnar Jonny]

Most likely the Genos II - 76 is allready under work at the drawing and developement board, and new features and possabilities will be added. 
Those who want a 61 key arranger will probably have to look at the new PSR series that will be some sort of Genos little brothers.......   

[Kaarlo von Freymann]

Mistakes are distractions. Sometimes when I'm playing in the restaurant in the evening, when a beautiful blonde walks across the dance floor carrying them big jugs of drinks in front of her,
That's one real distraction 

Agreed Pino and she need not even be blond, and even jug size is not important  Beauty like keyboards comes in many sizes.

Cheers

Kaarlo  (I believe I am not off topic as this thread is about SIZE)