My First week of having Genos and a brief comparison with my Tyros5 and KorgPa4x

[Will49]

I think it's a bit of an exaggeration for anyone to say that Tyros 5 is lacklustre compared to a Genos, and I reckon those who say Genos is twice as good as T5 are talking utter nonsense! Far more credible to me is the assessment of those who say that Genos is marginally better in some respects, and openly admit that T5 is still quite a decent piece of kit. Sometimes I will get a bad day, and whatever I try to do on my T5/76 doesn't sound right at all. I will then sit and watch a few of Peter Baartman's video demos of T5, and will immediately be reassured that I own one of the best keyboards there is... and that any temporary misgivings are just down to my inability to get the best out of it!

During Tyros 4's reign as Yamaha's flagship keyboard, I happened to get into a very interesting discussion with a very knowledgeable person in the field of electronic keyboard instruments. He predicted that the Tyros line would soon come to an end to make way for a completely new design, and a new name. Well, we all knew that that would happen one day soon anyway, but he went further by saying that most of Tyros' innards, including many of its styles (revamped, of course) and other features, would probably be transplanted into the new machine. The main reason for that, he said, was down to the fact that top end keyboards have already reached such a high level of excellence that any major (or ground-breaking) improvements in sound quality from one model to the next is extremely difficult to achieve. Another interesting thing he said was that it's natural that folk who trade up to a newer model will want to reassure themselves that they did the right thing. In fact, they will so much want their latest purchase to be the best yet, that they will gradually convince themselves that they can actually hear vast improvements when, in reality, such imagined improvements hardly exist at all! And whatever improvements that do exist are often the result of tweaked effects and other settings. Like I said, that conversation took place way back in the days of T4. Oh, and I didn't tell you what the chap did (and still does) for a living did I? Well, he happens to be one of Yamaha's main dealers... but he obviously can't be named here.

Kind regards,
Will

[ash1]

i am one of those people who thought the Genos sounded better
but when i got the chance to try the Genos a few weeks back i could hear no difference
the sounds were just the same as the Tyros 5

all the best ash1

[valimaties]

  There are a couple of users which exaggerating about sound of Genos, telling us its sound is "miles over Tyros 5" 
No way... It is better, indeed, improved, compared to Tyros 5, but not so "miles over"

I think your Bose system does not cover all frequencies and for that the sound of Tyros 5 seems the same as Genos. It is not, I tell you !

Regards,
Vali

[Gandalf43]

No problems friends ,

we can talk and talk...........
I have my own thoughts   

The sales figures will tell how good the Genos is !!

A nice day to all of you

Udo

[Gunnar Jonny]

The sales figures will tell how good the Genos is !!

No, it won't tell anything about how good the Genos is, but how many they manage sell.

[Will49]

The sales figures will tell how good the Genos is !!

Hi Udo, It's obviously good to see that Genos is doing so well. But I think the totally new design has something to do with it as well. Granted, not entirely but it has obviously helped boost sales.

By the time Tyros 5 appeared, it even looked more or less identical to the previous models... all four of them! By that time, some people may have started to yawn, and feel a bit bored with the 'same old, same old' look. Enter the Genos... a whole new design, different colour, touch screen, the lot! The punters immediately came out of their semi-hibernation... "now this IS different, it looks totally different, it's the very latest, it's unbelievably expensive... so it just HAS to be the best ever"!
I'm sure that if Yamaha had put all of the Genos inside the old casing of the Tyros range, and called it Tyros 6, the sales figures wouldn't be even close to what they are now!

Regards,
Will

[Gandalf43]

Hi Gunnar,
Hi Will,
I agree with you !! But sales figures means for at least 4 years !!
I've talked to music friends over here who say : apart from the touch screen
nothing new and compared with Tyros is looks cheap which is probably
a matter of taste.
Don't underestimate a power of the neighbour to neighbour talk and they don't
want to sell that thing only for 12 month

As Will said , a new product causes often a so called Snob Appeal effect but that doesn't mean anything.

I've prepared a Tyros – Genos challenge  based on some instrumental songs.
With the Tyros Audio recording and the Genos Audio recording everybody could
hear if there is a difference or not.
I dropped that idea cause I do not want any further going harsh "discussion"  about that subject.
In the first place and after all that talk about the brilliance of the Genos I wanted
to buy one. After I've seen , played and heard it I decided against it.

Nevertheless, congratulations to all the new Genos owners !!
Enjoy your new toy and send us some nice, convincing songs !!

A nice and sunny day (as it is over here)  to all of you

Udo

[EileenL]

I must admit that I was a little disappointed when I saw Genos was black as having had the Tyros 1,2,3,4,and5 had gotten used to the silver colour and thought of the old keyboards I had had in black that showed up all the marks and went shinny on the parts you used a lot. Having a touch screen which I did not really want and realising it was fixed I approached with caution. Once I heard it, all the above did not matter
I was sold on what I was hearing and just OTS being used to demonstrate.
  On getting it home the first thing I did was load in one of my favorite Tyros 5 registrations and just could not believe my ears. The sound was so much clearer and the bass from the style was vastly improved and much nicer to the ear. Don't get me wrong as I had loved my Tyros 5 and still think it is a great keyboard but there is a big difference between the two. OK there is a new learning curve with touch screen but once used to it you realise that in a lot of cases it is quicker to use and set up. For those who used the MF the playlist is a vast improvement over that and is very versatile in allowing you to set up your own Set Lists with everything you want to use saved along with it.
   Having the 76 note keyboard it is so much better when setting up split points for the Left and right three parts. More space to do this now.
   

[bluali]

..I think your Bose system does not cover all frequencies and for that the sound of Tyros 5 seems the same as Genos. It is not, I tell you

FYI I have combined the QSC K12.2 Speaker with the Bose L1/B2 (model2) to cover all range of audio frequencies!

[Gunnar Jonny]

Hi Gunnar,
Hi Will,
I agree with you !! But sales figures means for at least 4 years !!
I've talked to music friends over here who say : apart from the touch screen
nothing new and compared with Tyros is looks cheap which is probably
a matter of taste.....

Coming the route via several brands during the years when I did jump to the T4, the one and only Yamaha model I have owned till now.
I have to say, when handle it, I feel that Genos are a kind of 'light weight & cheep plastic fantastic' built. That feeling don't make me think it justifies the hight price level at all.
But in my eyes it looks good, touchscreen and updated OS is nice stuff, and it do in fact sound a bit better than T4 right out of the box. Also it is very good to play, keys feel good and fit my taste.
Some new features that probably never will be used by common home users, and if I may say so, bottom line is that Genos is a 'New Tyros in disguise'. 

[Fred Smith]

Coming the route via several brands during the years when I did jump to the T4, the one and only Yamaha model I have owned till now.
I have to say, when handle it, I feel that Genos are a kind of 'light weight & cheep plastic fantastic' built. That feeling don't make me think it justifies the hight price level at all.
But in my eyes it looks good, touchscreen and updated OS is nice stuff, and it do in fact sound a bit better than T4 right out of the box. Also it is very good to play, keys feel good and fit my taste.
Some new features that probably never will be used by common home users, and if I may say so, bottom line is that Genos is a 'New Tyros in disguise'. 

One of the big reasons I bought the Genos is because of the "light weight". A Tyros is tough to cart around. The Genos, even with 76 keys, is so much easier.

Fred

[StuartR]

One of the big reasons I bought the Genos is because of the "light weight". A Tyros is tough to cart around. The Genos, even with 76 keys, is so much easier.

Fred

Yes, and I don't think it's made of cheap plastic either. It feels like some type of plastic resin hybrid material. Very lightweight and yet strong. Nicely done, IMHO.

[Will49]

Don't get me wrong as I had loved my Tyros 5 and still think it is a great keyboard but there is a big difference between the two.

Hello Eileen,
I think it must be quite a while since I last responded directly to any of your posts... hope you are keeping well!

Well, I salute you for your honesty! Coming from you, that remark alone is worth a million posts on the matter as there are several Genos owners who seem intent on putting the T5 down by basically claiming that Genos is twice better – which, of course, is a technological impossibility!! What I am prepared to accept from reading the myriad of posts here though (until I get to try a Genos for myself) is that the overall sound may indeed be clearer and (as you just put it)  "...nicer to the ear". After all, it comes from Yamaha and follows 5 levels of Tyros so it just has to be a decent keyboard... but not ahead of T5 by the unrealistic amount that some seem to claim! You also mention your initial reservations concerning the black finish. I understand exactly how you must have felt as all my previous black keyboards showed up every bit of dust and turned shiny around some of the most frequently used buttons... but no such problems with any of the Tyroses though.

By the way, you also mention the advantage of having 76 keys (and I agree), but I always thought your Tyros 5 was the 76 note version... perhaps I got it wrong? Anyhow, glad to see that you are getting to grips with the new learning curve, and that you are enjoying your Genos!

Best regards,
Will

[Kaarlo von Freymann]

........and I reckon those who say Genos is twice as good as T5 are talking utter nonsense! Far more credible to me is the assessment of those who say that Genos is marginally better in some respects, and openly admit that T5 is still quite a decent piece of kit.
.............but he went further by saying that most of Tyros' innards, including many of its styles (revamped, of course) and other features, would probably be transplanted into the new machine. The main reason for that, he said, was down to the fact that top end keyboards have already reached such a high level of excellence that any major .....improvements in sound quality from one model to the next is extremely difficult to achieve.
Another interesting thing he said was that it's natural that folk who trade up to a newer model will want to reassure themselves that they did the right thing. In fact, they will so much want their latest purchase to be the best yet, that they will gradually convince themselves that they can actually hear vast improvements when, in reality, such imagined improvements hardly exist at all! And whatever improvements that do exist are often the result of tweaked effects and other settings. Like I said, that conversation took place way back in the days of T4. Oh, and I didn't tell you what the chap did (and still does) for a living did I? Well, he happens to be one of Yamaha's main dealers... but he obviously can't be named here.

Kind regards,
Will

Dear Will, thanks for an excellent post, a post I have actually been yearning for. What you say reminds me of HI-FI magazine tests of super - expensive cables that claim to be  unidirectional, e.g. one must make the connection correctly  out to in. And invariably some people write in that they can hear the difference  .  I happen to have both my "old" Tyros 5/6 and the new Genos standing in my recording studio both hooked up to the same output system simultaniously. The only apparent difference are the drums. And I am glad Genos got rid of the non transferable audio drums which can only be copied to the user drive which is a dwarf.  They are nice drums, but only 1 in 50 of my friends was able to say when the style was using the acoustic drums,  maybe because I never like some younger people turn up the drums to 90 dB. If there otherwise is any difference sound-wise it is of a magnitude that has no importance whatsoever when you are playing in a place where  people are for instance just dancing without even saying a word. If someone dares open his mouth any difference is illusionary.  What really makes me sad is that all the bugs the Genos has  - my Tyros had plenty of them and it took a long row of updates to finally get rid of them -  are not mentioned by so many posters. If this were a political forum I would suspect they are trolls, but as this is not a political forum it must just be that they have a so far gathered a very limited knowledge (My Genos finally arrived yesterday, it is fantastic) or have a very strong reason to praise the new YAMAHA child.  Mine has so many bugs that the  boss of the YAMAHA department of the importer has been kind enough to make an appointment to come and go through all the problems I have listed. He must be aware of there being bugs. Otherwise he would not spend his time with me, just send another Genos.  I went  to 2 gigs with the Genos instead of the Tyros as I firmly believe you can only really test an instrument  in a live situation just like you need to drive a car in heavy traffic to see whether it is better than the previous model. (Range Rover claimed I would due to a much lower cabin noise level be far happier with the new model and took me for a ride. I was sneaky enough to have a very precise noise meter with me. The new model was actually 2 dB louder than my old Range Rover)  The Genos froze several times, it did revert to default on many programmed settings,  just to name a few things. YAMAHA Scandinavia has confirmed that registration banks can not be transferred from Tyros to Genos at this time, which seems logical as  the addresses the buttons must call up are not equivalent. Nevertheless  some people on forums claim all you have to do is put a USB stick into your Tyros, copy the registration banks and put the USB stick into your Genos, Either they know something YAMAHA does not know or make false claims. What makes me a little weary is that these things are posted by people who are Genos vendors.

Kaarlo von Freymann Helsinki Finland

[EileenL]

As I have mentioned before Tyros 5 registrations work fine in Genos. The thing to remember is that if you have used third party styles unless you copy them by first creating a back up of your Tyros 5 hard drive to computer and then copy these files onto the root directory of a USB stick the registrations will not find the links. This USB stick must be first one put into the keyboard and read USB1. Most of us put this stick into the underneath USB port. You will also need to put your extra playlist from Yamaha onto this stick for them to work properly.
  Have you updated your OS to 1.10.

[Fred Smith]

Nevertheless  some people on forums claim all you have to do is put a USB stick into your Tyros, copy the registration banks and put the USB stick into your Genos, Either they know something YAMAHA does not know or make false claims. What makes me a little weary is that these things are posted by people who are Genos vendors.

That's all I had to do. Had my Genos working with all my Tyros registrations within 15 minutes of turning on the Genos.

You're better off asking for help rather than saying that people who have actually done something don't know what they are talking about. You don't make very many friends that way.

To add to what Eileen said, you need to upgrade to OS version 1.10 before you do anything.

Fred

[StuartR]

Dear Will, thanks for an excellent post, a post I have actually been yearning for. What you say reminds me of HI-FI magazine tests of super - expensive cables that claim to be  unidirectional, e.g. one must make the connection correctly  out to in. And invariably some people write in that they can hear the difference  .  I happen to have both my "old" Tyros 5/6 and the new Genos standing in my recording studio both hooked up to the same output system simultaniously. The only apparent difference are the drums. And I am glad Genos got rid of the non transferable audio drums which can only be copied to the user drive which is a dwarf.  They are nice drums, but only 1 in 50 of my friends was able to say when the style was using the acoustic drums,  maybe because I never like some younger people turn up the drums to 90 dB. If there otherwise is any difference sound-wise it is of a magnitude that has no importance whatsoever when you are playing in a place where  people are for instance just dancing without even saying a word. If someone dares open his mouth any difference is illusionary.  What really makes me sad is that all the bugs the Genos has  - my Tyros had plenty of them and it took a long row of updates to finally get rid of them -  are not mentioned by so many posters. If this were a political forum I would suspect they are trolls, but as this is not a political forum it must just be that they have a so far gathered a very limited knowledge (My Genos finally arrived yesterday, it is fantastic) or have a very strong reason to praise the new YAMAHA child.  Mine has so many bugs that the  boss of the YAMAHA department of the importer has been kind enough to make an appointment to come and go through all the problems I have listed. He must be aware of there being bugs. Otherwise he would not spend his time with me, just send another Genos.  I went  to 2 gigs with the Genos instead of the Tyros as I firmly believe you can only really test an instrument  in a live situation just like you need to drive a car in heavy traffic to see whether it is better than the previous model. (Range Rover claimed I would due to a much lower cabin noise level be far happier with the new model and took me for a ride. I was sneaky enough to have a very precise noise meter with me. The new model was actually 2 dB louder than my old Range Rover)  The Genos froze several times, it did revert to default on many programmed settings,  just to name a few things. YAMAHA Scandinavia has confirmed that registration banks can not be transferred from Tyros to Genos at this time, which seems logical as  the addresses the buttons must call up are not equivalent. Nevertheless  some people on forums claim all you have to do is put a USB stick into your Tyros, copy the registration banks and put the USB stick into your Genos, Either they know something YAMAHA does not know or make false claims. What makes me a little weary is that these things are posted by people who are Genos vendors.

Kaarlo von Freymann Helsinki Finland

Sorry but you are incorrect. My Tyros 5 registrations (almost 700 of them) all work just fine on Genos. I play them every day and I'm using one of my two Genos keyboards in a live band. Haven't had any lockups.

[valimaties]

Sorry but you are incorrect. My Tyros 5 registrations (almost 700 of them) all work just fine on Genos. I play them every day and I'm using one of my two Genos keyboards in a live band. Haven't had any lockups.

Sorry, but you are incorrect, too I don't know what are you saved in your registrations on Tyros 5, but I have had some issues with my Tyros5 registrations loaded in Genos, as some of Delay DSP has Feedback parameter over the maximum value accepted, or other issues, like Distortion DSP on guitar as on Tyros 5 I had Chorus DSP, etc...

Regards,
Vali

[EileenL]

Well one expects to have to do some resetting of Tyros 5 registration banks anyway so no big deal. I have not had any problem with mine as yet.

[mikf]

It has always been the case that styles, registrations etc are largely transferrable between arranger models in the PSR /Tyros range, but sometimes need tweaking. That is why people devised conversion software, and even after using the conversion they may still not be exact. This is because there are differences in styles and voices, and all the registration can do is pick the nearest thing.  For example, even if Yamaha have not made big change to a voice, they might have tweaked some parameters between models, and his applies also to voices used in the style. So when people say they can transfer they don't necessarily mean they are exactly the same in every case, or that they worked without a little tweaking here and there, because they really cannot be. I wouldn't call this a bug.
Mike

[StuartR]

Sorry, but you are incorrect, too I don't know what are you saved in your registrations on Tyros 5, but I have had some issues with my Tyros5 registrations loaded in Genos, as some of Delay DSP has Feedback parameter over the maximum value accepted, or other issues, like Distortion DSP on guitar as on Tyros 5 I had Chorus DSP, etc...

Regards,
Vali

Ok, fair point😁. Guess I've been fortunate and haven't noticed any irregularities so far but that doesn't mean there aren't any. I suspect most of the translation errors between Tyros 5 and Genos will get fixed and if they don't you'll be there to let them know! 😲😁

[EileenL]

No it is not a BUG. I think that word has been to freely used without exploring the keyboard and how it works.
  Yes there are a few glitches which will be fixed as time goes on. These certainly do not stop you enjoying this keyboard and doing a little tweaking to suit individual tastes. That is all part of the fun.

[Bud2]

The only problem I found with a couple of my Registrations from my Tyros 5 was a wrong drum set was chosen and it gave either a strange noise instead of a drum set sound or there was a loud thud instead of a base drum (I think) a friend also experienced this. However the majority of my Registrations worked with either very little alteration or no alteration, I would say over 98% of them were fine, so if you found a lot of problems Kaarlo von Freymann, I can only think you have either not updated the OS or there is something wrong with just your Genos, as nearly everyone else, like me, have had only minor problems with their Registrations off their Tyros 5.

[valimaties]

It has always been the case that styles, registrations etc are largely transferrable between arranger models in the PSR /Tyros range, but sometimes need tweaking. That is why people devised conversion software, and even after using the conversion they may still not be exact. This is because there are differences in styles and voices, and all the registration can do is pick the nearest thing.  For example, even if Yamaha have not made big change to a voice, they might have tweaked some parameters between models, and his applies also to voices used in the style. So when people say they can transfer they don't necessarily mean they are exactly the same in every case, or that they worked without a little tweaking here and there, because they really cannot be. I wouldn't call this a bug.
Mike

Mike, in my oppinion, Tyros 5 registrations are not fully compatible with Genos. There are issues Yamaha must solve them. Or at least make them convertable from YEM.
A file which is not loaded due system incompatibilities is understandable, but a file which load and some parameters are not loaded correctly, IMO represent a bug. Which, definitelly, has to be informed to Yamaha and solved
Do Not bypass any issue, provide those aspects to Yamaha. They don't know till we inform them

Regards,
Vali

[Kaarlo von Freymann]

The only problem I found with a couple of my Registrations from my Tyros 5 was a wrong drum set was chosen and it gave either a strange noise instead of a drum set sound or there was a loud thud instead of a base drum (I think) a friend also experienced this. However the majority of my Registrations worked with either very little alteration or no alteration, I would say over 98% of them were fine, so if you found a lot of problems Kaarlo von Freymann, I can only think you have either not updated the OS or there is something wrong with just your Genos, as nearly everyone else, like me, have had only minor problems with their Registrations off their Tyros 5.

Thank you all  VERY MUCH  for dealing with my issues. Naturally I do sincerely appreciate any help very much.  Looking for help  is the reason why I,  and I think all others go to forums.  (I am on quite a few that do not deal with music as I am not  making my living by playing but by designing military drones)  BTW I do have 1.10 installed.
In case it is a problem that  dozens of style I have on the TYROS 5/6  and work well there are neither a TYROS style nor originally even a YAMAHA style but for example  converted from Technics, (Some Technics 6000 styles  are very good)   then that might explain  part of my problems.

In case I have other problems no one else has like for instance 

- the pitch bender range and fade in fade out not staying where they were set  e.g. resetting to something else after power
  being cycled, 
- only my Genos sometimes freezes like my PCs  do every once in a while and must be switched off and on again

then Bud 2's conclusion  that "there is something wrong with just my Genos" seems pretty conclusive.  As a fact no-one else has reported these problems on this forum.  Will copy these posts and hand them to the Yamaha Importer's representative to-morrow, and post anything interesting that turns up.

Kaarlo von Freymann Helsinki Finland

[Kaarlo von Freymann]

I think it's worth pointing out that some people don't have very good hearing and are not therefore going to benefit from the greatly improved sound and also if you wear hearing aids they are not any good for music only speech, unless you pay a lot for them.
Graham

Dear Graham,
How right you are, my sister has that problem. Even  her  6.000 $  hearing aid is reasonably  good only for speech, no hearing aid works well for music.  That's why we should all use noise canceling in ear monitoring  on gigs in order to keep the level low to save our hearing.   I am 83 and  all my EQ settings are still the same as they were 10 years ago, but  different from what they were 20 years ago. More trebble. But to be honest I cannot appreciate the "huge difference" in sound quality  people claim there is between Tyros and  Genos.  But "huge" has different meanings,  Mr. Trump has taught us that.

Kaarlo

[Fred Smith]

Thank you all  VERY MUCH  for dealing with my issues. Naturally I do sincerely appreciate any help very much.  Looking for help  is the reason why I,  and I think all others go to forums.  (I am on quite a few that do not deal with music as I am not  making my living by playing but by designing military drones)  BTW I do have 1.10 installed.
In case it is a problem that  dozens of style I have on the TYROS 5/6  and work well there are neither a TYROS style nor originally even a YAMAHA style but for example  converted from Technics, (Some Technics 6000 styles  are very good)   then that might explain  part of my problems.

In case I have other problems no one else has like for instance 

- the pitch bender range and fade in fade out not staying where they were set  e.g. resetting to something else after power
  being cycled, 
- only my Genos sometimes freezes like my PCs  do every once in a while and must be switched off and on again

The bugs you have identified are a long way from your statement "YAMAHA Scandinavia has confirmed that registration banks can not be transferred from Tyros to Genos at this time"

When you make statements like that, you are going to get the responses you did. Had you identified these bugs in your initial post, you would have saved us all a lot of time.

Fred

[Kaarlo von Freymann]

The bugs you have identified are a long way from your statement "YAMAHA Scandinavia has confirmed that registration banks can not be transferred from Tyros to Genos at this time"

When you make statements like that, you are going to get the responses you did. Had you identified these bugs in your initial post, you would have saved us all a lot of time.

Fred

Sorry Fred,
as a fact the reason why many Tyros owners in Germany and  some here in Finland  were not able to convert reg.banks has been sorted out. (Eileen helped)  A  Tyros site in Germany years ago recommended making  4 partitions on the HD, which helped structuring the content and actually worked well for us through all the Tyros models. Now with Genos that became a problem for those who did that. As an example:  every style on partition 1,  every midi file on partition 2.
It is not possible to transfer the regs. if you have this setup.  You can get around that by copying all styles and registrations to the user drive on Tyros, but for most users that is not possible due to the fact that the user drive on Tyros is too small to accept  all the styles many  (me included) had  on HD partition 1. So ironically both those who on German sites claimed they could not do the trick and those here and on German sites who said they were able to do it  were telling the truth. Yamaha Scandinavia, who did confirm to the Finnish importer that there was a problem probably had this information from Germany.  So now we  who have the problem know what the reason for the problem is and that it will not be solved with the next upgrade.  As to the  many other problems the manager of the importer's keyboard department was kind enough to spend 3 hours with me and is sorting out what are known bugs ans which are just present on my Genos.

Kind regards

Kaarlo

[Pianoman]

Here is a recent video by Peter Baartmans that is an excellent illustration on just how good the Genos can sound in a live setting using a decent setup and a brilliant delivery by the man himself.

Peter Baartmans playing the Genos

Mike

Hello Mike.

Keep in mind that Peter Baartmanns is supported by an entire
organisation that makes sure that he sounds as good as possible.

I have read many praises of Peter Baartmanns, and I'm sure
that some are indeed well deserved.

I personally am not very impressed by the man, and know
quite a few struggling musicians who can run rings around him.

Please note that Blueali used the same sound equipment
for both keyboards in the demo.

The Genos may sound better in some cases, but it is not the huge leap
for mankind that some may insist it is.
That is my understanding of what Blueali is trying to say.

Best Regards.
Pianoman.

[soryt]

I have from the beginning a lot of problems with my T5 registrations , i made them new on the Genos ( os 1.10) all my files are on the User drive . after update 1.20
there are now a lot of registrations ( made on Genos) that dont work anymore .
When i select the registration you can see the right style in Register bank info  ( see picture) , but i doesnt play the selected style ?
I wrote several times to Yamaha , they answer that the complexity of the machine can give some problems and they hope there comes a solution ?
I have after update 1.20 more problems than before , and a lot of "hick-ups" (switching between registration about 30 seconds, or freezzing up while editing .
Because the fine sound of the Genos , i want to keep it . But after struggling fore 4 months , my patience is almost gone .

Soryt 



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