Newbie needs help.

guitpic1 · February 03, 2018, 04:35:38 AM

Hello I'm back in the fold..at least for now as I'm trying out a Genos...very impressed with the keyboard by the way.

Is there some step by step instruction that exists for creating a registration list? I've read the manuals...no luck. Tried to figure it out on the Genos...no luck. Been lurking here but there's too much info to sort out.

What I'm trying to do is create a single file that has every song I do. I would like to use a bank of 10 panels or registrations for one song as I do on my S970.

Suggestions?

I think the playlist must be something similar to the set list on my 4X?

Fred Smith · February 03, 2018, 05:29:28 AM

To create a Playlist:

1. Press the Playlist button
2. Press the New icon (top of the display).
3. Press Continue
4. Press one of the Add Record icons
5. Select the registrations you want in the Playlist.
6. Press Save.
7. Name your Playlist.

Fred

guitpic1 · February 03, 2018, 08:46:11 AM

Tx Fred. I got quite a bit a help from you when I first got into Yamaha arrangers years ago.

Tx again.

Al Ram · February 03, 2018, 08:52:09 AM

Guitpic
You are probably referring to have a list of songs in the keyboard.

Not sure if you use the SongBook+ application. I have a Genos and use the SongBook+ application connected to Genos.

I use up to 10 registration buttons for each song.

I do not use the Genos playlist because I have my lists in SongBook+. I can easily create one playlist with every song i have as well as different playlist for each gig.

Hope this helps.

thanks

guitpic1 · February 03, 2018, 04:12:50 PM

Tx Al.

I would prefer to just use the keyboard registrations or playlist for my gigs...at least until I learn more.

guitpic1 · February 03, 2018, 04:18:10 PM

If I wanted to have all my songs in one file would I use Playlist or a registration file?

On my S970, I have one registration file that has all the songs, filed by registrations. And each new registration I add is automatically filed alphabetically.

Guess I haven't quite figured out how Genos organizes things. I'm guessing the Genos system is good..just got to get this in my head.

Tx

Fred Smith · February 03, 2018, 04:50:30 PM

By "file", I'm sure you mean folder.

A registration bank is a file. Several registration banks are put in a folder.

Genos registration files are organized the same way as they were on any PSR, or any Tyros (or any computer for that matter). Files go in folders, and you can have as many as you want.

On a Genos, you are limited to 2500 files per folder. On a Tyros, the limit was 500. On most PSRs, the limit was 250.

Organize your registration files the way it's most convenient for you to find what you want. You can certainly have all your registration files in one folder if you want, and the keyboard will list them alphabetically.

In my case, I find it takes too long to get to the Ws, for example, so I have 26 sub-folders, one for each letter of the alphabet. I can find the song I want much more quickly that way.

But the file organization is up to you, the same way it was on the PSR.

Fred

pjd · February 03, 2018, 05:25:48 PM

Hi --

If you're willing to use a text editor on a personal computer, you can create a playlist without a whole lot of Genos button pressing. I just went through this process and here are my working notes.

Have fun!

-- pj

A Genos Playlist is a tab-separated value (TSV) file with the extension ".tsv".

The first line in the file identifies the fields:


    TITLE   FILEPATH   REGIST   OPENVIEWER

The field names are separated by tab characters.

The rest of the file consists of Playlist records. Each line is a record with four tab-separated fields:


    TITLE          Song title (embedded spaces are OK)
    FILEPATH       Path to the registration bank file
    REGIST         Number of the registration within the bank [0:9]
    OPENVIEWER     One of OFF, SCORE, LYRICS, TEXT.

There isn't any special end-of-list record.

REGIST selects a registration memory location. The range of values is 0 to 9 (button 1 to button 10). The REGIST value may also be "OFF", meaning that a button is not selected when the registration is loaded.

Example playlist:


TITLE   FILEPATH   REGIST   OPENVIEWER
La Playa   I:/PlaylistForGenos/Ballroom/La Playa.rgt   0   OFF
Matrimony   I:/PlaylistForGenos/Ballroom/Matrimony.rgt   0   OFF
Moon River   I:/PlaylistForGenos/Ballroom/Moon River.rgt   0   OFF
Patricia   I:/PlaylistForGenos/Ballroom/Patricia.rgt   0   OFF

Drive I: is the first USB drive. Drive C: is the internal (USER) drive.

My registrations are stored in the internal drive directory: "C:\REGIST". My registration banks have path names like:


    C:\REGIST\1950sRock.S917.RGT
    C:\REGIST\Motown.S917.RGT
    ...

Each registration within a bank is a song (style, tempo, WAV file, etc.)

Given a list of titles, add the registration path and button number to the playlist file, e.g.,


TITLE   FILEPATH   REGIST   OPENVIEWER
Whatd I Say   C:\REGIST\1950sRock.S917.RGT   1   OFF
Then You Can Tell Me   C:\REGIST\1950sRock.S917.RGT   2   OFF
Tears Of A Clown   C:\REGIST\Motown.S917.RGT   1   OFF
Heatwave   C:\REGIST\Motown.S917.RGT   2   OFF
I'll Be Around   C:\REGIST\Motown.S917.RGT   3   OFF
I'll Be There   C:\REGIST\Motown.S917.RGT   4   OFF
Just My Imagination   C:\REGIST\Motown.S917.RGT   5   OFF
Nightshift   C:\REGIST\Motown.S917.RGT   6   OFF
What Does It Take   C:\REGIST\Motown.S917.RGT   7   OFF

Oldden · February 03, 2018, 06:23:00 PM

Hi pjs,
I like your reply, can't click the like button its not working.
I wonder how long before we get a Windows program to do all you say. Text editor is fine, but always a chance of typing the wrong thing in. That's me mainly I'm talking about.

Oldden

Oldden · February 03, 2018, 06:34:17 PM

Hi Pjd

Oops sorry, I know it is Pjd and not pjs. Blame it on old eyes, and big fingers on a small iPad.

Oldden

StuartR · February 03, 2018, 08:40:41 PM

Quote from: pjd on February 03, 2018, 05:25:48 PM
Hi --

If you're willing to use a text editor on a personal computer, you can create a playlist without a whole lot of Genos button pressing. I just went through this process and here are my working notes.

Have fun!

-- pj

A Genos Playlist is a tab-separated value (TSV) file with the extension ".tsv".

The first line in the file identifies the fields:
    TITLE   FILEPATH   REGIST   OPENVIEWER
The field names are separated by tab characters.

The rest of the file consists of Playlist records. Each line is a record with four tab-separated fields:
    TITLE          Song title (embedded spaces are OK)
    FILEPATH       Path to the registration bank file
    REGIST         Number of the registration within the bank [0:9]
    OPENVIEWER     One of OFF, SCORE, LYRICS, TEXT.
There isn't any special end-of-list record.

REGIST selects a registration memory location. The range of values is 0 to 9 (button 1 to button 10). The REGIST value may also be "OFF", meaning that a button is not selected when the registration is loaded.

Example playlist:
TITLE   FILEPATH   REGIST   OPENVIEWER
La Playa   I:/PlaylistForGenos/Ballroom/La Playa.rgt   0   OFF
Matrimony   I:/PlaylistForGenos/Ballroom/Matrimony.rgt   0   OFF
Moon River   I:/PlaylistForGenos/Ballroom/Moon River.rgt   0   OFF
Patricia   I:/PlaylistForGenos/Ballroom/Patricia.rgt   0   OFF
Drive I: is the first USB drive. Drive C: is the internal (USER) drive.

My registrations are stored in the internal drive directory: "C:\REGIST". My registration banks have path names like:
    C:\REGIST\1950sRock.S917.RGT
    C:\REGIST\Motown.S917.RGT
    ...
Each registration within a bank is a song (style, tempo, WAV file, etc.)

Given a list of titles, add the registration path and button number to the playlist file, e.g.,
TITLE   FILEPATH   REGIST   OPENVIEWER
Whatd I Say   C:\REGIST\1950sRock.S917.RGT   1   OFF
Then You Can Tell Me   C:\REGIST\1950sRock.S917.RGT   2   OFF
Tears Of A Clown   C:\REGIST\Motown.S917.RGT   1   OFF
Heatwave   C:\REGIST\Motown.S917.RGT   2   OFF
I'll Be Around   C:\REGIST\Motown.S917.RGT   3   OFF
I'll Be There   C:\REGIST\Motown.S917.RGT   4   OFF
Just My Imagination   C:\REGIST\Motown.S917.RGT   5   OFF
Nightshift   C:\REGIST\Motown.S917.RGT   6   OFF
What Does It Take   C:\REGIST\Motown.S917.RGT   7   OFF

Excellent as usual, Paul. Yamaha could (and I'll argue should) have provided this info either in the reference manual or in a product video, especially since there are limited search and sort options in the current implementation. But it's early, and perhaps they'll update it as time progresses.

pjd · February 03, 2018, 10:13:14 PM

Thanks! It took a few quick experiments to figure out "the Yamaha way."

-- pj

guitpic1 · February 04, 2018, 01:08:57 AM

Tx all for your help.

guitpic1 · February 04, 2018, 03:23:06 AM

Update

With help from all of you, I did relearn the work flow. I'm now able to do registrations/playlist...at least I think I have it. I think I was over complicating it.

Many Tx

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