New PSR-S775-S975

[Mega Voice]

Here you are!
https://asia-latinamerica-mea.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/psr-s975/index.html

[EileenL]

Think I will probably wait until a Brand new model comes out in a couple of years time

[SeaGtGruff]

Interesting!

"Newly implemented Half bar fill-in, Mono legato function expand the variation of your performance."

That's different from the PSR-S970, isn't it?

But the big questions are,
(1) will these models be sold in North America, or
(2) are they special modified versions of the PSR-S970/770 that will be sold only in certain countries?

[DerekA]

Good questions Michael!

They're not showing up on the UK site yet but I'll keep looking ...

https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/index.html

[Joe H]

Looks to me like those improvements could have been done with a firmware update. 

Half Bar
Save Live Control in registrations
Mono Lagato

Looks to me it's targeting a certain Asian market.  I agree with Eileen, we should wait for the next PSR successor to the S970.  I think we will see these improvements and MORE.

Joe H

[WolfBack]

I'm looking the specs of s775 compared with my s770 but I can't find any major upgrade, only a few:

Half bar fill-in and Mono legato function
280 MB on-board memory for expansion data
A "Plus" button on Styles/Voices parts (on the "Plus" category: Euro dance or Salsa pack are pre-installed in PLUS category.)

Only one thing I like much: The total black finish of the case...

[Joe H]

I see there is a 768MB Expansion Memory also.  This is silly marketing on the part of Yamaha.  The additional expansion memory could also have been done with a OS firmware update.

What Yamaha trying to do here?  I would be happy to pay a fee for these upgrades, but NOT pay for another whole keyboard.  This is unacceptable.  Looks like Yamaha is going the way of Microsoft and Apple Corporations.

Joe H

[frankmusik]

It was a mistake to publish it already .... the webmaster was toooooo fast.
It shouldn't be official before end of month :-)
Just wait some days for more information.

greetings from germany
frank

[zionip]

I see there is a 768MB Expansion Memory also.  This is silly marketing on the part of Yamaha.  The additional expansion memory could also have been done with a OS firmware update.

Joe H

Hi Joe,

The Expansion flash capacity is probably fixed and not an OS firmware update can increase.  It is limited by the hardware itself.

Thanks,
Paul

[pjd]

What Yamaha trying to do here?

Hi Joe and folks --

I think Yamaha is getting out a quick response to the Korg Pa700/Pa1000. The mid-range is super competitive. More opinions at:

http://sandsoftwaresound.net/psr-s975-announced/

I don't think the S975/S775 are targeted for current S970/S770 users. Not a big enough functional delta and too soon after the last mid-range launch. It's a pretty modest refresh with maybe the next biggest ONFI NAND flash memory dropped into the same printed circuit board footprint.

The PLUS category is interesting from the global perspective. Yamaha can pre-load and sell region-specific units. Smart. That's probably why they improved mono legato, too.

I'm still trying to figure out their functional roadmap for audio styles. The S975 has expansion space for audio styles; the S775 does not.

I haven't seen any pricing, but I expect prices to be comparable to current models.

All the best, everyone -- pj

[Patrick]

Hi all, nothing very important;just a very small update from the S970, so i'll stay with my S970; the PSR S970 already have the 128 MB for audio styles only! I have not used this memory because i've not found some audio styles for the S970; the best thing is to be abble to use these 128 MB for expansion pack! Yamaha can make an update for this!All the best Patrick

[hans1966]

I agree with Joe H. that those updates that were made in the S975, could have been made in the S970, with firmware update, but Yamaha simply did not want to. and if it is as PJD says, an answer to Korg Pa700 / 1000 I advance that my second keyboard is going to be the Korg Pa1000, because I plan to keep my S970, until there is a really important update from Yamaha. greetings Hans

[Toril S]

Almost like S970. No big deal!

[SeaGtGruff]

To me, the fact that the model numbers differ from the current ones in the 1's place rather than the 10's suggests a minor change rather than a major one. I don't know whether all of the changes could have been accomplished with a firmware update; at least some of them may have required different ROM chips in addition to more RAM chips?

[Marty]

I'm guessing now that there is no firmware code space left for adding an option to save ' Live control' assignments in registrations for the 770/970. A real shame if true.

[Joe H]

If these keyboards have new chip sets then I'll accept that these upgrades could not have been done with firmware code.  PJ stated there was plenty of room on the S970 for more expansion memory.  I and a few others have posted here many ideas for upgrades.  Yamaha refuses to accept these ideas directly from customers. 

I think Yamaha is getting their upgrade ideas from this forum so they don't have to pay anyone royalties.  I can't believe there are no people at Yamaha dreaming up ideas for new features.  I think also Yamaha is focused on opening up new markets in Asia and the Mid-East.

For any company; how big... is big enough.

This is sad.         

Joe H

[J. Larry]

What is "mono lagato"?  Never heard of that.  What function does it serve?

[Roger Brenizer]

This will help explain mono legato.

https://ask.audio/articles/understanding-mono-legato-mode-in-synth-sample-vis

[hans1966]

Personally I expected at least 1GB of memory for expansion packs, chord sequencer, new styles with revo drum kit, song sequencer with deep event editing, vocal harmonizer with pitch correction. 5 styles of free play instead of three, 4 live control knobs, extended arpeggio library, combination of arpeggios between left hand and right hand. If all the above had been added to the S975, then it would be worth changing from S970 to S975. but at the moment there is no worthwhile reason to make the change from S970 to S975

[Joe H]

Personally I expected at least 1GB of memory for expansion packs, chord sequencer, new styles with revo drum kit, song sequencer with deep event editing, vocal harmonizer with pitch correction. 5 styles of free play instead of three, 4 live control knobs, extended arpeggio library, combination of arpeggios between left hand and right hand. All of the above added to the S975, yes is a true update as for change from S970 to S975. but at the moment it's not worth changing my S970 to S975

I think you just described the NEXT PSR arranger... maybe the PSR S990.



Joe H

[hans1966]

Hello Joe I apologize for my English, I just corrected the previous thread. greetings Hans

[hans1966]

If Joe, it is true now we have to wait for the next PSR - S990 or whatever it is called, maybe PSR - G990 or PSR - G1000, we really do not know what Yamaha thinks.    greetings Hans

[computec1349]

The psr s975 and 775 are the new models of Yamaha, but the psr s975 no includes the revodrums!

[Enildo]

Hello friends of this wonderful forum!

At last Yamaha heard your customers!
Half Bar Fill (although it does not have a specific button), Live Control (Knobs) can be saved in the Resgistration Memory
and "Mono / Legato" function, have been much discussed here in the forum.
Congratulations Yamaha!

Enildo

[Enildo]

While adding some interesting things, I do not know if it would be worth changing my s970 for s975.
The s975 is only a small update to the s970, but it's not a new keyboard.
Maybe it's better, at least for me, to continue with s970 until the next release (Psr s990 or g990 or s1000, etc.)
with other functions and features besides those placed in the s975.
They did with the s975 pretty much the same thing they did before the s900 for s910.

Thanks to all who have read these words,
Enildo

[DerekA]

I'm sad, because I was hoping to move from S770 to S990 if it came out later this year.

I'd really like a Genos but can't quite bring myself to spend that much on it.

[Joe H]

While adding some interesting things, I do not know if it would be worth changing my s970 for s975.
The s975 is only a small update to the s970, but it's not a new keyboard.
Maybe it's better, at least for me, to continue with s970 until the next release (Psr s990 or g990 or s1000, etc.)
with other functions and features besides those placed in the s975.
They did with the s975 pretty much the same thing they did before the s900 for s910.

Thanks to all who have read these words,
Enildo

I'm going to wait! We might see more changes in the next S9xx or whatever it will be called.  When I requested the Live Control be saved in registrations... I was told "it couldn't be done".  There is only 2 explanations for what we see in the Genos and S975.

1. I was lied to
2. Yamaha re-wrote the firmware code to allow this function.

Joe H

[Enildo]

I'm going to wait! We might see more changes in the next S9xx or whatever it will be called.  When I requested the Live Control be saved in registrations... I was told "it couldn't be done".  There is only 2 explanations for what we see in the Geno and S975.

1. I was lied to
2. Yamaha re-wrote the firmware code to allow this function.

Joe H

You were right Joe H! Live control could be resolved with an update.
Extracting the memory of "Expansion Voice" (768mb), the rest could be done only with updates.
The "Plus" styles and voices, we would continue to use the YEM to select what we wanted.

Enildo

[Enildo]

Glad they put the "Half Bar fill" function, I complained about this little detail that makes a lot of difference when we are playing live.
I'm glad you're listening to our pleas! LOL
I hope in the next Psr comes a physical button for such a function.

Enildo

[iwiw]

Will the PSR S975 S775 be available in USA? I hope so.