Genos Registration - Playlist

Started by Antonio, December 12, 2017, 06:18:36 AM

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zionip

Antonio,

Thanks for doing the screen captures.  However, it is too much work first to download a series of zipped files, then unzip them to see what you meant.  It is easier to just type up your procedure.

I personally do not need your procedure because I know how to sort it with Microsoft Word, Excel, and WPS Spreadsheet.

Thanks,
Paul

Antonio

Zionip

for me the procedure with excel is simple und faster,
when you have too much record.

Please test  thje procedure und let me know.

Thank You

iain

it takes a long time to get your playlist right but it's worth it till someone comes up with a program for the genos.
The penny dropped with me that it only loads registrations in batches of ten so load it ten times then change the name of every reg button to the correct title of your style or song.most people who only play in the house would not have many to fix.If like me you have over 70 styles it can take some time .
Iain

Antonio

the problem is that the records of the playlists can not be manipulated.
Strangely it seems that there are no pages, buttons etc. to complete the operations.

iain

I found what might be handy for some people if you are in playlist and select a style or song if you press registration up and down together then press exit it will take you to the ten registrations info so you could see more styles that you may have grouped together you only need to press reg up and down the first time as going back to playlist change to another style and press exit will take you to that registration .Hope someone finds a use for it.

Iain

Antonio

I have too many records to manage, I hope there is a programmer
willingly that makes us a program to manage the registrations / playlists

:) :)

gerarde

Antonio,

You mentioned you have 51 repertoires that have about 60 songs in each that were in Musicfinder.
Those 51 repertoires would be 51 playlists in Genos.

It seems when you converted your Muiscfinder list into Genos you ended up with 3200 songs in one playlist.
Is this correct?
If that is true, do you have 3200 registrations for your playlist?
Let me know and then I might be able to help you.
One way to check, is by loading a song from the playlist, press EXIT, then at the top of the main screen you  will see the registration for that song.

Gerard


Antonio

Gerard

Actually there are 2 playlists 2400 recond and 800 records, because the Music Finder as the Genos Playlist can contain a maximum of 2,500 records.

These records are subdivided under a Keyword (tag in Genos). During the import of records a single playlist is imported instead of partializing this list with the respective keywords (tags). The Keyword represent the Songbooks.

In this case I would have 51 Song Dossier of 60/70 records already divided, and in alphabetical order.

If you want to rework or edit the registration, it is not so easy to enter and exit the menus,
that are still not mature and stable.

I hope I managed to explain well.

Regards

Antonio

Hallo Gerard

I hope you have a Genos. If you refer theoretically to other similar keyboards, the speech is similar, but not very relevant, to what I have explained.

Bye, see you soon.             

Antonio                 

gerarde

Antonio,

Yes I have a Genos.
Your 51 song Dossier with 60 to 70 songs each,should be 51 playlists.
In MusicfinderView, checkmark all the songs for one of the 51 song dossier.
Then FILE/SAVE/MUSICFINDER File, and click on Checked Records Only.
Then give it a filename for that song dossier.
Do that for each of the 51 song dossier. and you will end up with 51 Musicfinder files.
In Genos, You can then make a playlist for each one.

Gerard

Antonio

Quote from: Bill on December 12, 2017, 06:45:21 AM
Hi Antonia

I'm not exactly sure if I understand you correctly, however

You Can save individual registrations to a playlist.  There is a single tab marked add to playlist.
You Can Edit and change Registrations.
You Can Change style and sounds (IN REGISTRATION OR STYLE)
There is no confusion (in my mind) about playlists. It does not get any easier.

Point 2 I do not understand

Bill

The change when imported from music finder ist imposssible...


::) ::)

Antonio

Registration - Music Finder / Playlist

1) impossible to save individual registrations
2) impossible to transform the global playlist into those of Keyword
3) Impossible editing and saving changes to the registration
4) changes on styles and sounds ( registration ) are not accepted
5) there is a lot of confusion in the pages in the management of playlists


Gerard

We turn around the topic but in reality what emerges is what I wrote above.
I confirm after various attempts that the situation is this. If a robust upgtade does not arrive
or the intervention of a programmer, we will all end up going fishing.

;D ;D ;D

Regards

gerarde

Antonio,
I am sorry but I have been able to do everything that you stated you needed to do.
On my PSR S970, when I made a change to a song that was in Musicfinder, I made the change to the registration and then saved it to the Musicfinder record.
Either you are not specific enough or I do not understand your problem.

You can create as many Playlists as you want to. You need 51.
You can edit any registration that points to a playlist record.
When you save the registration the playlist record will automatically open the edited and saved registration.

Gerard

Antonio

Hello Gerard,

in the meantime I reset some things and I saw again
some things compared to Genos.
I found a good compromise to operate.

I take this opportunity to congratulate you for Christmas and happy new year
and thank you for the support.

we'll be back soon!

Antonio

Danne Machmar

Why ONE registration per bank? In that case regs 2-10 are useless?

Superjuan

If Yamaha could make the Playlist mode work like the Styles mode, then it will be much easier.
I have been able to copy individual styles from different Style Packs and put them a new Folder.

Similarly, I would like to have a Folder with just the songs that I have chosen from different MF Finders. For Ex.: I have MF Tyros 3, Tyros 4 and Tyros 5.
Every time I select a song and move it to my Folder it brings all the songs from the the original Playlist.

Juan- Superjuan

valimaties

What we need in playlist, is a simple control (object) which will do a lot of work. The object is a custom ListView with sortable Header, or a GridView with Sortable Header. When you click on Playlist Record "Name" column header, the playlist will be sorted in alphabetical order (ascending or descending, by number of clicks over it).

2. The possibility to add a selected registration from a registration bank to a playlist from registration info screen. ("Add to playlist...")
3. (Replaces 2) When you press "List" button on playlist screen, under Add Record label, the screen looking for registration banks is opened. An option to see what is inside the selected bank, like Registration Info screen, and selecting a registration from that bank, to make a one-step add record task to playlist. The rests of settings, like lyrics, or text, or score can be added later to that playlist record.

Simple, no?  :)
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Dromeus

Quote from: Danne Machmar on January 03, 2018, 07:06:28 PM
Why ONE registration per bank? In that case regs 2-10 are useless?

Actually it's one registration bank per song. I use always several registrations per song. The remaining registrations are unused, not useless.
Regards, Michael

JohnS (Ugawoga)

Hi
I have  just looked at playlists and it would be nice if you could go to the Registration section and add and just select a playlist song and it is already loaded.
So by just pressing the song in the playlist it is all set to go. Instead of selecting and pressing load.
Surely Yamaha have just to make a pathway to the registration.
On the playlist you can see more songs per screen than the registation view, so all it needs is a link for just the song name and then pages and pages for the playlist.
I am not a computer programmer , but would that not quicken things up for the player gigging.

All the best
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Fred Smith

Quote from: ugawoga on July 12, 2021, 03:19:41 PM
I have  just looked at playlists and it would be nice if you could go to the Registration section and add and just select a playlist song and it is already loaded.
So by just pressing the song in the playlist it is all set to go. Instead of selecting and pressing load.
Surely Yamaha have just to make a pathway to the registration.
On the playlist you can see more songs per screen than the registation view, so all it needs is a link for just the song name and then pages and pages for the playlist.
I am not a computer programmer , but would that not quicken things up for the player gigging.

I agree. And it wouldn't be hard for Yamaha to do. They could give us a parameter (like quick load for midis) which we could set to choose one tap or two.

My understanding of the double tap is you get to select the next song while playing the current one. Then one tap at the song end loads the next one.

Another useful feature would be moving to the next song in the playlist when you get to the sequence end. Currently, it goes to the next registration, which might have nothing to do with the current playlist. They could add this to the sequence end options they currently have.

Cheers,
Fred
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ckobu

If we want to base the Playlist only on songs (SONG mp3 or SONG MIDI, whatever) we can use creating a List menu (Song player). If I understood John and Fred's writing well, there are all the options you mentioned here.

https://youtu.be/3NH3QTpdDH4
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Fred Smith

Quote from: ckobu on July 13, 2021, 01:40:46 AM
If we want to base the Playlist only on songs (SONG mp3 or SONG MIDI, whatever) we can use creating a List menu (Song player). If I understood John and Fred's writing well, there are all the options you mentioned here.

https://youtu.be/3NH3QTpdDH4

I'm familiar with Songlists. But I'm not interested in using midis (or MP3s). I play exclusively with registrations.

Cheers,
Fred
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Sun Lakes, AZ
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overover

Quote from: ugawoga on July 12, 2021, 03:19:41 PM
Hi
I have  just looked at playlists and it would be nice if you could go to the Registration section and add and just select a playlist song and it is already loaded.
So by just pressing the song in the playlist it is all set to go. Instead of selecting and pressing load.
Surely Yamaha have just to make a pathway to the registration.
On the playlist you can see more songs per screen than the registation view, so all it needs is a link for just the song name and then pages and pages for the playlist.
I am not a computer programmer , but would that not quicken things up for the player gigging. ...

Hi John,

I don't know if I understood correctly what exactly you are talking about here.

In any case, you can create Playlist records in such a way that when you call up a song in the Playlist, the relevant Registration bank is loaded and the desired Registration button is automatically activated so that you are immediately ready to play.


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Fred Smith

Quote from: overover on July 13, 2021, 09:54:16 AM
I don't know if I understood correctly what exactly you are talking about here.

In any case, you can create Playlist records in such a way that when you call up a song in the Playlist, the relevant Registration bank is loaded and the desired Registration button is automatically activated so that you are immediately ready to play.


Chris,

The problem John is talking about is you have to tap the registration name twice. Once to put in in focus, and once to load it. It would be nice to have the option to need only one tap.

Cheers,
Fred
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Sun Lakes, AZ
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ckobu

Only now is it clear to me what you would like. That option already exists. If the check mark is pressed directly, the playlist entry is automatically active. Only one click is required.
Look at the moment when I call the song More Than Words

https://youtu.be/rxnn8LA6Vao?t=392
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Fred Smith

Quote from: ckobu on July 13, 2021, 02:24:42 PM
Only now is it clear to me what you would like. That option already exists. If the check mark is pressed directly, the playlist entry is automatically active. Only one click is required.
Look at the moment when I call the song More Than Words

Well, how about that. You tap the checkmark. Who'd have thought of that.

Thanks, ckobu. You learn something new everyday.

Cheers,
Fred
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Saskatoon, SK
Sun Lakes, AZ
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