Registration Sequence problem

[valimaties]

Sorry for my bad english (I hope you don't throw eggs in me... ) )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WNsmdjeMHw

[mikecruiser]

You are absolutely right!  I also miss the Tyros 'registration edit' screen very much.  I always gave each registration a descriptive name (e.g. Mantovani Strings or Alpert Brass) and appropriate icon, rather than display the components (e.g Slow Strings, Chamber Strings & Real Strings Pad) that make up the registration. 
I haven't tested your other point yet (advancing the registration bank whilst the Registration Edit screen is open), but that would also present a problem for me. 
Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Mike

[Wim NL]

I also miss the Tyros 'registration edit' screen very much

Regist Bank > Select your registration > Menu > select : Regist Bank Info or Regist Bank Tag Edit

[valimaties]

Regist Bank > Select your registration > Menu > select : Regist Bank Info or Regist Bank Tag Edit

No Wim, is not the same thing.
In Tyros series from one move a see all registrations from next bank or previous.... Now I have to make a lot of movements to view what is inside a registration bank.
The idea is to open "Regist Bank Info" screen and after that to navigate with registry + or - to see the next Registry bank content or previous. This is so simple, so I think they could easily make this come true  

[Wim NL]

Regist Bank - and Regist Bank + works in Registration Bank modus (pusch Regist Bank - and +)

In the playlist you go to the next with the INC + button
and back with the - DEC button under the dial or with the dial and select by ENTER

[valimaties]

Regist Bank - and Regist Bank + works in Registration Bank modus (pusch Regist Bank - and +)

In the playlist you go to the next with the INC + button
and back with the - DEC button under the dial or with the dial and select by ENTER

Ok!  You didn't understand the problem.... )))))

The problem is Genos does not navigate thru registry like  Tyros do!

Tyros:  Select a Registration Bank - Edit (now you see all 8 registrations there) => Registration+ go to next registration bank (without exit from registration bank edit screen) and now I'm viewing registrations of next Registration Bank

Genos:  Select Registration Bank - Menu - Regist Bank Info (one step in plus) => Registration+  do nothing (R- do nothing) . To view the registrations of next registration bank look how many steps in plus: (I'm in Info screen) X button to exist (or exit button) - Select next registration (or press R+ button) - Menu - Regist Bank Info... How many steps in plus?! 3 (three, last step is also on Tyros when press Reg+).

Did you understand now?! 

[Wim NL]

Yes, I do follow you now.

I don't often use more than 1 registration per bank.
So I'm not familiar to your work flow.

[valimaties]

Yes, I do follow you now.

I don't often use more than 1 registration per bank.
So I'm not familiar to your work flow.

In your case it's a waste of 9 registrations per bank... At least use replacement of OTS-es in registrations and you can get more voices in your style for right hand...

[gerarde]

I use one registration per bank and use the other 9 buttons for all the voices I can use with that song.
Maybe one time when I play a song I will use button 4 voice and the next time button 6 voice to change it up a bit.

Gerard

[valimaties]

I use one registration per bank and use the other 9 buttons for all the voices I can use with that song.
Maybe one time when I play a song I will use button 4 voice and the next time button 6 voice to change it up a bit.

Gerard

It's a good approach, using registrations, for you.

I am, in most of my part as singing, the orchestrator in my band, I do not make solos, so in my case this is not a good approach.
In most of parts I use OTS for change my voices, but in almost all cases, I use OTS 4 for manually guitar arpeggiator (as stroke or arpeggio, or both of them, but manually) and strings, and the other OTSs for solo instruments, if I want to make a solo...

In my case, a registration for a song is enough, so I use registrations in other way (It's a kind of playlist ) The "Playlist" of Genos, in my case, help me to sort entire registrations database

Regards.

[XeeniX]

Hi Val,

That sure is inconvenient and a loss for Genos owners that want to use registrations in this way. I hope that they pay attention (perhaps mailing support and ask?) and add a feature with a next firmware update. In the meantime and perhaps a quick and dirty solution for you I hope :

If you put all the info that you need/want in a text file (create it on your pc) and save it in the registration under one of the banks as a lyrics text file. That way all the info about the banks for that registration can be quickly accessed by pressing the text/score button (don't have a Genos so no clue if they left one )
I's not ideal perhaps but it could be a nice workaround for you and save you a repetitive strain syndrome from all the screen tapping

hope it is of any help to you,
peter

[Wim NL]

I use 1 registration bank for songs + style

And many other only voice registration banks with my favourite voices.

[MisterGenos]

Hello,

What i do is verry easy i use the DIRECT ACCESS and the same time one button of registration from 1 till 10

there i see the list of every Registration from the first till what i use


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[EileenL]

I don't sing but play medleys of songs so my sound variations are what give interest to the songs. I will use One Bank with ten different sound variations for each style I use. I have always worked this way. I don't bother setting in Intos and endings as I do these by hand as and when I need to.

[valimaties]

You all sing as OMB?
I have other 4 members in my band, I'm not a OMB...
We sing in this way, as medley... when you want entertaining, having couple of seconds between songs is ugly. I don't sing in a restaurant or caritable events as background music, when you can stop, search, play.

I think in this conditions the only way playing songs as medley is making playlists... Registrations are only for saving settings, I cannot use them as in Tyros5, and this implies a couple of steps more.
A black ball from me to Yamaha for this thing, of changing behaviors from a model to other. They don't thing and seems to not care what implies this changes
I don't blame Genos as a keyboard, because sounds great, but blame Yamaha because of this "I don't understand why?!" changes.

Hope they add old features, because Genos can handle it.

Conclusion:
Genos - awesome keyboard
Yamaha engineers - 🖓

[Brnjeuska74]

If you play in dark room/hall you definitely have a lots of problems with Genos reg.bank
Lots of us use reg.bank for style+voice+text at the same time, and moving threw reg.bank using the + or - was the easiest way and quickest as well... I hope that Yamaha will do an update .....