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Started by Mr. Gary, November 15, 2024, 09:26:15 AM

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Mr. Gary

I'm having difficulty getting to grips with Super Articulation.
For example on the Genos, and using the Sax as an example, I can't get anywhere near the sounds Yamaha demonstrates for the instrument. At the end of the Sax demo for example, there is what appears to be a slur, reducing in volume. Instructions also show when two notes are played with 'velocity' various effects are achieved?
However, I appreciate these demos are effected by professionals, (I find even the You Tube vids to not go to those depths.)
Any advice would be most appreciated....

yogi62

On my G2, if using the S.Art 2 'Smooth Tenor Sax' and pressing two or more notes together it does in fact produce a slight slur, however I believe the effect varies somewhat based on a persons particular playing style. It sound like you have already gone through the User manual (page 71) and Reference manual (page 37) regarding using the S.Art buttons, but it may still be worth taking a look at the example Youtube video linked below (if you haven't already done so):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-UZ2Zwk4uQ&ab_channel=YamahaGlobal



Mr. Gary

Many thanks for the prompt reply, most appreciated.!
I have seen that video, as well as (I assume) most others regarding the subject.
The slur I mentioned was perhaps the wrong description. It relates to the end of the note as it dies away, there is a kind on low level rasp which I've not heard previously & I certainly can't replicate.!
Once again, most appreciated..

yogi62

Which particular sax voice did you use?

Mr. Gary

Big band alto sax, Tenor sax, Big band tenor sax. All have the same nuisance as the final note tails away..

yogi62

I listened to the Jazz demo 'BigBandTenorSax' section but unfortunately I was not able to hear the low level type rasp you mentioned. I did try to replicate the sound on the three voices you mentioned but again, I was unable to produce such an effect.

Sorry I can't be of further help, but I did try.

regards   

acparker

Don't forget about the 3 S. Articulation buttons on the far left of the keyboard.  Basically, they offer 3 starting articulations, if you press them before the note, and 3 ending articulations, if you press them while holding the note.  Maybe the effect that you heard is from one of them?

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andyg

And you can trigger them from the footswitches IIRC, so you might not even see the player using them.

Super Art 2 voices are super accurate but you have to experiment to see how they work and then you have to practise using them, and the SA2 effects they have. You could easily spend half an hour getting a sax solo to sound right. Time consuming? Yes, but that's what we demonstrators and pros have to do, especially with a new product or new feature.

So try all the SA2 voices you're likely to use, try out the SA buttons and find out how they can enhance your performance and don't forget things like legato versus non-legato touch and how hard you strike the keys can affect the voices.

And there will always be times when you don't want a voice to use these tricks. If so, go to Legacy and use a similar voice from there.

Dig in and have fun! :)
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yogi62

Quote from: Mr. Gary on November 15, 2024, 03:53:28 PMThe slur I mentioned was perhaps the wrong description. It relates to the end of the note as it dies away, there is a kind on low level rasp which I've not heard previously.......

Having had a second look at the effect you mention, if you hold down a note and then press the Art2 button just BEFORE you release the note, is this what you are referring to?

yogi62

For those that may not be aware, if you select a voice (like Altosax under the woodwind category) and then press the demo button you will see the various Art1/2/3 buttons that may have been used to achieve the effect.