Style editor for .psr style files

[janamdo]

Hi janamdo,

There are several good editors, I single out MixMaster and MagicStyleYA.
Watch the video and you will get information on how you can editidng Style on your computer.

https://youtu.be/PM3htJysPmQ

Hi ckobu

Cubase 8.5 is not to use recording tool ( the latest one?) as i understand in the video
(that Cubase cannot record a yamaha style is probably marketing strategy)
Cakewalk seems to be a free DAW to download ? ..successor is Sonar DAW.

Could try to record styles with Cakewalk and if the steps are clear in your video perhaps i succeed.
But its not first priority now

I must see what sound are assigned in a style and to use mixmaster for that, it has not sx600 included.
Probably stylemagic will be do this sound information reading, but first look for a demo version.

regards

Jan

[janamdo]

Hi

My software program "Style Revoicer" at http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/software/revsty/index.htm will read MSB LSB and Program numners in style files.
Furthermore you can change these 3 voice values and some other parameters in the program.
Regards
Jørgen

Hi

Looked again to your program Style Revoicer and it seems to be very useful for seeing the sounds for a style.
Found only distracting the sounds on the channels 1 ..to 

There are doubling sounds as i can see it now

Thanks again

best regards

Jan

[overover]

Hi Jan,

I recommend that you dig a little deeper into the details of the Yamaha Style File Format. I think then a lot will become clearer to you.

You can find information about this in addition to the Reference manuals for the various Yamaha keyboards (which can all be downloaded for free), e.g. also here:
>>> http://www.wierzba.homepage.t-online.de/stylefiles.htm

>>> http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/articles.htm
(See "Style Creation Course" and "Style Reference" here.)


A Yamaha Style file is basically a MIDI file and can contain up to 16 MIDI channels. The channels 9 ... 16 are the so called "Accompaniment channels" (also called "Destination channels" or "Target channels) that are assigned to the known Style Parts Rhythm1, Rhythm2, Bass, Chord1, Chrord2, Pad, Phrase1 and Phrase2. Only these channels/Parts are visible on the keyboard (e.g. in the Mixer or in the Style Creator).

In most cases, however, channels 1 ... 8 of a Style file also contain MIDI data. These are mostly alternative accompaniment patterns that are played depending on the Chord type being played. For this purpose, all possible channels (1 ... 16) are assigned to one of the 8 Accompaniment channels (9 ... 16) by the so-called "CASM" part of the Style file (and finally played via channels 9 ... 16).

By the way: If you play using a Style and record this as a MIDI file, you will have exactly that in the MIDI file what you PLAYED before. It is almost impossible to record ALL possibilities that a Style offers as a MIDI file: In addition to all Main Variations, you would also have to record all Intros, Endings and Fills/Breaks, in the most varied of chords and keys. Especially with the Fills/Breaks, the exact trigger time also plays a major role.

Of course, it doesn't do any harm to thoroughly test such things. But there is also the risk of getting bogged down or losing track of what you actually want to do.

In my opinion, you will achieve the best results if you choose a suitable Style for a certain song to be played, then play the song "normally" with this Style and record the whole thing with "MIDI Quick Recording" on the keyboard. (Minor mistakes are not a problem here.)

Then you transfer the recorded MIDI file to the computer via USB stick and import it into a suitable MIDI processing program (e.g. a DAW such as Cubase or Cakewalk, or MixMaster). The keyboard should be connected to the computer via (USB-)MIDI during the entire process, and the correct MIDI driver must be installed (with the SX600 this the Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver, but with e.g. SX700/900, PSR-S, Tyros5, Genos this is the Yamaha USB-MIDI Driver).

Important: A Style recorded as a MIDI file must be played back on the keyboard via the SONG Parts (MIDI Receive Port 1), i.e. NOT via the STYLE parts of the keyboard (which can be addressed via MIDI Receive Port 2)!


Best regards,
Chris

[tyros5psr]

Thanks
best regards

tyros5psr

[janamdo]

Hi Chris
Thanks for this
I must study this styles further
Enclosed a pic how a imported style shows up in stylesections and this is lost when i do quick recording.

regards

Jan

Note: the imported styles in the Composer are not good converted, so this is not working

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[janamdo]

Recording a song in a computer program (Cubase, Cakewalk ...) can be done well, but prior knowledge is required. Watch this video. The MIDI settings of the Genos and SX600 are the same.

https://youtu.be/vjqUzC4DqnI

Hi

The two files needed for recording a style into Cakewalk DAW
- StyleRecYamaha.cwt -> load in Cakewalk
- MIDISetupCakewalk.msu -> How to use this file ?

Like to record with the styles of keyboard PSR SX600 into Cakewalk


Jan 

[ckobu]

These are midi settings, you put the file on USB and load in the keyboard.

[janamdo]

These are midi settings, you put the file on USB and load in the keyboard.

Hi
Thanks

I found it now how to load the midi configuration for SX600
Loading these two setupfiles and ready to record !

Jan

[janamdo]

Yes, i record a stylepart with success for sx600 
Only further handling to be studied

Jan

[chax]

CKOBU,
How to load this file 'MIDISetupCakewalk.msu' in SX900 after saving in USB drive?
Thanks
Chax

[ckobu]

You open the MIDI settings on the keyboard and loading * .msu data. Click on All Part and you will understand.

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[chax]

I am sorry I did not get 'how to load the file in the KB'.Kindly give the steps as the file is in the pen drive( USB1).

[ckobu]

I put the wrong picture. I hope you succeed now.

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[chax]

I think set up does not exist in SX900 as it does in Genos.Ps refer scr shot below.

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[ckobu]

Hmmm

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[chax]

Thanks
Grateful

[Quetzalito]

Hello all,

I know this is an old post and I do not see any recent activity but will ask anyway.

Is there a "real" style creator that works? I have tried the most popular but they all have major deficiencies. I do not mind paying so please advise.

Thank you all 🎹🎹🎹🎹

[Divemaster]

Pages 18 to 30 of the REFERENCE Manual for the SX 700 and 900 explains the function of the inbuilt Style Creator.
You don't say what keyboard you have? That would be helpful.

You can download the manual here.
https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/psr-sx700/downloads.html

There's also a programme called MixMaster.

Keith

[TiasDad]

Hello all,

I know this is an old post and I do not see any recent activity but will ask anyway.

Is there a "real" style creator that works? I have tried the most popular but they all have major deficiencies. I do not mind paying so please advise.

Thank you all 🎹🎹🎹🎹

I, and many others, use Stylemagic YA from here ... https://www.midisoft.pl/en/