PSR SX600 controller assignment - missing TRANSPOSE option?

[pc131]

Hi All,

I was just going through the settings of my PSR SX600 (MENU -> Controller) and found out, that I cannot assign TRANSPOSE function to the pedal/controller. I am on firmware 1.02.
Can any owner of SX700/900/Genos check that? I use transpose often, when I play songs and it's pity, that you can't assign pedal to do it.
How can I contact Yamaha and suggest them to include it in next firmware (which probably will never come)?

[TiasDad]

You can add Transpose to a registration, then use pedals to go forwards and backwards through the registrations

[pc131]

You can add Transpose to a registration, then use pedals to go forwards and backwards through the registrations

Thanks, that's a solution, but takes up registration slot and in fact, this should be done the "correct way". Do you have this option in your PSR SX900?

[TiasDad]

According to the Reference Manual, page 116, yes, Transpose is available to be controlled by pedal, although I've never used a pedal for that.

[pc131]

According to the Reference Manual, page 116, yes, Transpose is available to be controlled by pedal, although I've never used a pedal for that.

I have checked and in printed manual of SX600 there is no page 116. I checked in PSR SX600 Reference Manual and I confirm, that there is no TRANSPOSE in Assignable Pedal Functions. How to contact Yamaha, so they add this function in firmware?

[overover]

Hi All,

I was just going through the settings of my PSR SX600 (MENU -> Controller) and found out, that I cannot assign TRANSPOSE function to the pedal/controller. I am on firmware 1.02.
Can any owner of SX700/900/Genos check that? I use transpose often, when I play songs and it's pity, that you can't assign pedal to do it.
How can I contact Yamaha and suggest them to include it in next firmware (which probably will never come)?

Hi pc131,

In contrast to e.g. PSR-E/EW models, you can create and manage ANY number of Registration Banks on the SX600, just like on PSR-S/SX700/SX900/Genos/Tyros models (only limited by the storage space on the USB stick used). It is best to create a separate Bank for each song title (with the song title as the file name).

As already mentioned, you can save the desired transposition for each Registration of a Bank. If you use the "Registration Sequence" function, you can step through the individual Registrations with a Pedal. This is the method that many users of the models mentioned work with.

By the way, personally I don't see the need to put the Transpose function on Pedals. Normally you always have one hand free to quickly press a transpose button.


P.S.
To contact Yamaha see this site:
>>> https://uk.yamaha.com/en/support/contacts/index.html


Best regards,
Chris

[pc131]

Hi pc131,

In contrast to e.g. PSR-E/EW models, you can create and manage ANY number of Registration Banks on the SX600, just like on PSR-S/SX700/SX900/Genos/Tyros models (only limited by the storage space on the USB stick used). It is best to create a separate Bank for each song title (with the song title as the file name).

As already mentioned, you can save the desired transposition for each Registration of a Bank. If you use the "Registration Sequence" function, you can step through the individual Registrations with a Pedal. This is the method that many users of the models mentioned work with.

By the way, personally I don't see the need to put the Transpose function on Pedals. Normally you always have one hand free to quickly press a transpose button.


P.S.
To contact Yamaha see this site:
>>> https://uk.yamaha.com/en/support/contacts/index.html


Best regards,
Chris

Hi Chris,

Thanks for your response. Sometimes I play at faster tempo and it would be convenient to have TRANSPOSE underneath you foot, I simply missed the correct buttons at times. Surely, maybe I need more practice, but still why this one function was not included in the list of assignable options is weird to me.

I know I can use registration bank for this, though I don't use this functionality and it hurts my brain, to copy over registration, just to transpose 1 step :-)

Yamaha Europe replied to me:

"The PSR-SX600 is the simplest model in the PSR-SX series and unfortunately does not have this pedal position control function, as well as several others that characterize the SX700 and SX900 models.
Instead, there are buttons on the main panel that are used for transposition.
Perhaps the "successor" of this model will be equipped with this function, as Yamaha often introduces a new model with some of the functions of a higher group of instruments."

So I replied:

I bought the simplest model, because I didn't  need touch screen, 400MB/1GB internal space. And in SX600 I have audio interface, whereas higher models don't have it.

I also asked them if they listen to customers' suggestions or advice to wait for "newer" model to come, or buy existing higher that doesn't meet my needs - no audio interface. For THRII desktop guitar amps, they listened to users, because with first firmware these desktop amps sounded worse than first ones launched 10 years go.

Let's see what they reply.

[DerekA]

I don't really understand what you'd want the pedal to do.

Always transpose to +4 absolute? Always transpose +1 from where you currently are? Always transpose 1 octave down?

It doesn't really make sense - maybe that's why you can't do it

[pc131]

I don't really understand what you'd want the pedal to do.

Always transpose to +4 absolute? Always transpose +1 from where you currently are? Always transpose 1 octave down?

It doesn't really make sense - maybe that's why you can't do it

I don't really understand why there are any assignable functions for pedals, why having fill-in, break, intro, ending, when you can press a button?

I always transpose + 1 and maybe another +1 later.
But why then Yamaha put this feature in SX700/SX900? (this is what customer support replied) if it "doesn't" make a sense?
It really makes sense to me, because I don't use registrations ;-)

I had another response from Yamaha:

"Apart from the fact that not everything in the instrument can be changed only by modifying the software, it is not physically possible to introduce the suggestions of all users of a given model on an ongoing basis. Another thing is the line of the series (here SX700 and SX900), which introduces differences between the basic model and the next ones in the series precisely in the number and advancement of the available functions."

Really? You cannot add 1 line to the screen to invoke existing function using firmware upgrade? 

And suggesting SX700/SX900 in next sentence is clear "buy SX700/SX900" - but I prefer SX600 - I don't want touch screen and I want audio interface, which higher models lack.

It's all about how the company treats customer. I think my suggestion was not even forwarded form 1st line support to anyone else. It was more like "if you want an option in the menu that SX600 doesn't have, buy SX700".

I am using Kemper amplifier for guitar and these guys have upgraded their firmware for 10 years - for the same device. And they read forum and take customers' suggestions.