Editing Recorded Midi Tracks Volumes ?

[Reg]

  I am gradually making some headway recording midis using the multitrack option.  Now I could use  some help re editing or adjusting the volumes of some of the tracks.  I cannot seem to find how to solve this.  Is there a screen on the Genos that will permit this function like it is on the mixer page? Thank you.  Reg

[Stijn]

You can do some editing in the Mixer display, touch the [Song 1-8] tab or [Song 9-16] tab.

See page 86 of the Owner's manual.



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[Reg]

Thank you Stijn.  Much appreciated.  Regards, Reg

[EileenL]

In multi track song record press the step edit tab at the top of the screen. This will now show you the events page of all tracks. On the left you will see it defaults to Ch1. Press this and there are three drop down pages with all the tracks on including Sys Ex. Select one and press OK. Now you can edit all events to your liking including Volume DSP Panning Reverb voice and others. When finished press Save.
  It is very easy to do.

[Reg]

  Thank you Eileen.   Your help is always appreciated.  Regards, Reg

[Reg]

         Well I am still unable to make volume changes to a recorded midi  on my Genos.   I have tried the step edit option and can bring up the channel numbers 1,2  etc.  but cannot get any further. I read and re-read the manuals and the posts on this topic.  I am unable to save volume changes made on the mixer. I attempt to save the changes but loading another midi and coming back to the one that was changed reverts back to the default settings.    When I go to midi multi recording ,select the song,
I cannot access mixer settings  I want to adjust . I did not find this a problem on my Tyros 5.  I'm missing a step somewhere.  Reg

[Stijn]

Hello Reg,

I made some basic directions. Maybe they will get you back on track.
Let me know if you managed to save changes to a Midi.

Stijn

Note: I added some instructions.

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[Murat]

Hi Stijn,

I also need help the 16 track recording on Genow. I will be playing back some MIDIs I created years ago on Genos and what you shared here will be very useful. So, thank you.

Kind regards,
Murat

[panos]

Nice pictures Stijn.
I see that a lot of users of all models seem to miss the "set up-execute-save" step when they want to change a midi file.
Similar to the "save registration" step, when they want to change something to a registration.

[Murat]

Hi Panos,
You are right. I am one of those who is not very competent when it comes to programming and creating on Genos's 16 track sequencing. Of course there are the manuals to read and go through but like most people I find it too long. I wish there was a simplified document (similar to Stijn's PDF he shared) showing how to create/edit new songs using the 16 track sequencer on Genos.
Cheers,
Murat

[EileenL]

This system will not work if you have different voice changes on one track and it is the second or third voice you need to alter the volume on. This must be done as I have mentioned using Step Edit.

[tyrosaurus]

I made some basic directions. Maybe they will get you back on track.

Hi Stijn,

I see that in your instructions,  bullet point #4 says 'Touch the Play button'.

Is this correct?   Wouldn't  you normally press the 'Stop' button here rather than 'Play', to ensure that the song position was at the beginning?


Regards

Ian

[Stijn]

Hi Ian,

It is 'The Play' button, that way you can listen to the song and make some adjustments.

But I forgot to mention that after returning to the previous windows, you should press STOP to put the Midi player back at the beginning of the song and that we should not use the PAUZE button, as this will affect the Execute window.

Like Eileen says, this is not the way to go when you want to adjust different voices that are recorded on the same track. You will need to dig deeper and use the Step Edit method.

Stijn

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[Reg]

  I  now able to edit recorded midi tracks on my Genos. Thank you Stijn for posting the
detailed instructions.  This enabled me to change volumes, panning etc.
  Thank you Eileen for the  the step edit process.  I still have not mastered that option but for now at least I am moving forward.  Regards, Reg

[vadesriux]

If I use an expression pedal to record a volume change in a Midi track, for instance raising slowly the track instrument volume with the expression pedal, will this volume change get recorded?
If this works it will be an intuitive and simple way to achieve volume automation when recording!

[vanzee]

Yes, it will.

[vadesriux]

On that single track only, or will it affect the whole song volume? I want to change the volume of each single track at a time while recording in real time, not the whole song volume. Like arming track 1, record volume change. Arm track 2, record volume change, etc. Is this possible?

[vanzee]

Yes, this is possible without changing
the general volume.
I have done this as follows:
loaded into e.g.CH3 of a song in "Midi Multi Recording",
an organ played / recorded with volume variations by the pedal.
You have to go to "Assignable"> "Foot Pedals"> "Volume"
assign the function only to the desired part
you want to record: e.g. "R1"

Clarification:
while I operate the volume pedal I play the part
back into the desired channel and record it.

To include only the volume variations in a given
channel without playing back/recording the part
I use "Sonar" from Cakewalk on the PC.

[vadesriux]

Can someone explain the procedure to record a volume change on a single track, using the pitch bend or an assingnable button? Thank you.