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Genos SX Plus Pack by MX Sounds Studios

Started by MFrost, April 05, 2020, 03:03:58 PM

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Quote from: Henni on April 23, 2020, 10:49:15 AM
... This package will give you REAL Revo drums with the Round Robin playstyle included with maybe less layers than the Yamaha version. However you will hardly notice the difference. ...

It is (technically) NOT possible to add the REAL Revo! drum functionality afterwards to a keyboard model that don't have it, due to its technical specification.

I have looked into some of these so called "Revo!" drum voices of these Packs (in newer versions they use the term "Dyno!" now):

Some drum instruments (mainly Bass Drums and Snares) in such drum voices have two Velocity Layers (e.g. velocity 1 - 101 and 102 -127) with two different Samples. That's all. I can not imagine how a real "Round Robin" technology (changing samples even with repeated strikes with the same velocity) could be realized with such standard Custom Drum voices which are obviously used here.

Maybe these Drums sound good in the ears of certain users (just "different" to the original PSR-S or SX drums). But it will never sound exactly like real Revo! Drums on a Genos or CVP-809.


Best regards,
Chris

● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

Henni

Chris,

No one even hinted that these will sound EXACTLY like the Genos. However:

Listen to my commercial style demos (they are still up there for a reference only as I am no longer in the style creation market). Then go listen to the same styles on a stock standard S770. Then come back and tell me same.

I was literally blown away by the end result and remember I was an actual end time user and not a mere speculator. Those Revo drums makes for a HUGE improvement.

I do understand though why Genos owners might not be thrilled about this product. When you have the best nothing less will impress you.

Henni
...Fly Forever!

beykock


Hi Henni :

Thank you so much for your very interesting information and experience.
I am very impressed by your comments.


Babette
The Grateful





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Quote from: Henni on April 23, 2020, 12:08:45 PM
Chris,

No one even hinted that these will sound EXACTLY like the Genos. However:

Listen to my commercial style demos (they are still up there for a reference only as I am no longer in the style creation market). Then go listen to the same styles on a stock standard S770. Then come back and tell me same.

I was literally blown away by the end result and remember I was an actual end time user and not a mere speculator. Those Revo drums makes for a HUGE improvement.

I do understand though why Genos owners might not be thrilled about this product. When you have the best nothing less will impress you.

Henni

Hi Henni,

thank you for this detailed answer! Yes, I basically agree with you here.

I just wanted to make it clear that with these sound extensions you can never get the REAL Revo! Drum sound (including the "Round Robin" technology) on the smaller models. (Although it certainly doesn't sound bad.)

I personally don't like this "pseudo-Revo!" drums so much. Some of these sounds are a bit too "pushy" for me. Even though I have a Genos, in many cases I even use the "good old" (non-Revo!) Drums. ;)


Best regards,
Chris
● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

Henni

Quote from: Telmo on April 11, 2020, 02:57:49 PM
I myself just bought this pack to my SX900 and the styles in general really exceeded my expectation. They do sound good, very, very close to Genos. If you close your eyes comparing it with Genos listening live, I bet you can't distinguish the difference. I'm happy for spending only $35 bucks in such a great product.
You can purchase throug Paypal and contact them here: https://playsounds-store.ecwid.com/Expansion-Pack-SX-Essentials-p173700807
...Fly Forever!

rcpilot

Can you use them direct or do you have to install via the Yamaha Expansion Manager (YEM)?
Lee

Teknoss

Quote from: rcpilot on April 24, 2020, 07:43:08 AM
Can you use them direct or do you have to install via the Yamaha Expansion Manager (YEM)?
Lee
;D ::)
Genos 2, Korg PA5X, Ketron EventX, Nord PedalKeys27

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Quote from: rcpilot on April 24, 2020, 07:43:08 AM
Can you use them direct or do you have to install via the Yamaha Expansion Manager (YEM)?
Lee

Hi Lee,

these packs come in .PPF format. You definitely need to use the Expansion Manager (YEM) on your computer:

- import the PPF pack into the YEM
- if necessary import further packs into the YEM
- select the desired packs for the desired keyboard in the YEM
- save as Pack Install file (.PPI) on the connected USB stick
- install on the keyboard from the USB stick. :)


Best regards,
Chris
● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

computec1349


Simone1972

I've purchased the full package and I honestly think that it is a job well done.
I love how the guitars samples can be easily swapped out within styles as well as the new drumkits.
The sound range of the keyboard gets significantly improved !!!
The only compromise is to combine this package with other ones, due to the large amount of memory required.
I think I will spend most of the weekend in house....

Regards

Enildo

Quote from: Simone1972 on May 01, 2020, 07:23:59 AM
I've purchased the full package and I honestly think that it is a job well done.
I love how the guitars samples can be easily swapped out within styles as well as the new drumkits.
The sound range of the keyboard gets significantly improved !!!
The only compromise is to combine this package with other ones, due to the large amount of memory required.
I think I will spend most of the weekend in house....

Regards

Hello Simone!

What is the size of the complete package?
What format is sent, PPF, CPF, PPI or CPI?

Cheers,
Enildo
When word fail, Music speaks!

Simone1972

Dear Enildo,
Don't know precisely, but it can be close to 900 Mb.
Nevertheless being in ppf format it can be tailored to your needs.

Regards

LaHawk

Quote from: Telmo on April 06, 2020, 08:33:10 PM
And the price for this Pack is not bad at all. $35 USD it seems very tempting. I might give it a try. To have Genos sounds on my SX900 would be awesome.

The Essentials Pack is $35. The Plus pack is $60
Confused, which pack are we referring to, and what's the difference? There are actually 5 choices at the play sounds store https://playsounds-store.ecwid.com/and that makes it real confusing.
Larry   PSR-SX900
 My You Tube Recordings

Telmo

Quote from: LaHawk on May 01, 2020, 12:48:11 PM
The Essentials Pack is $35. The Plus pack is $60
Confused, which pack are we referring to, and what's the difference? There are actually 5 choices at the play sounds store https://playsounds-store.ecwid.com/and that makes it real confusing.
Hi Larry, I would recomend the "SA!Natural Alto Sax", the "SA!Harmonic", the "SA!Jazz Violin", the "SA!Irish Pipe", the "S.Art!Resonador Blues Amp". These are the voices which stands out along with the Drum Kits.
Yamaha PSR-SX-900, JBL EON ONE Linear-Array PA System.
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Telmo3190
"We are Old Too quick... and Wise too late."

LaHawk

Thanks Telmo,

To clarify, I meant what are the differences in Expansion Packs.

I have since found out from Play Sounds that there are two options for the SX900
The G-Master Keys SX Plus and G-Master Keys Complete.

The G-Master Keys Plus is 620MB cost about $25 with code: https://playsoundsusa.wixsite.com/playsounds-store/copia-de-g-master-keys-complete

The G-Master Keys Complete is 796MB  cost about $35 with code: https://playsoundsusa.wixsite.com/playsounds-store/g-master-keys-complete

The two other packs are for the S- series and the other is for the Tyros. The two above are for the SX-900, and I assume the SX-700
Larry   PSR-SX900
 My You Tube Recordings

Christopher Fernandes

Quote from: LaHawk on May 01, 2020, 03:11:31 PM

The G-Master Keys Complete is 796MB  cost about $35 with code: https://playsoundsusa.wixsite.com/playsounds-store/g-master-keys-complete


Hi, LaHawk. To me, it says it's $89 USD for the "Complete" and $60 USD with "StayHome" offer. Are you using a different code?

Thanks.
Current Instruments: Yamaha PSR-SX900/Epiphone DR100 AG

Gear: Yamaha KS-SW100 Subwoofer

Past Instruments: PSR-E413
Played: All Yamaha PSR-S, KORG PA700

LaHawk

40% Off code:
StayHome

IMO, I haven't tried them, but I see very little new with these packs.  It appears nearly all styles are already in the SX-900, or freely available. Perhaps a voice or two, and maybe some drum kits, but other than that? Am I missing something?
Larry   PSR-SX900
 My You Tube Recordings

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Quote from: LaHawk on May 02, 2020, 12:37:37 PM
40% Off code:
StayHome

As mentioned by Christopher before: For "Complete" pack it says only "20% OFF StayHome": ;)

>>> https://playsoundsusa.wixsite.com/playsounds-store/g-master-keys-complete

I don't know if this is intentional or maybe a mistake.


Best regards,
Chris
● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

LaHawk

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Larry   PSR-SX900
 My You Tube Recordings

PhotoDoc05

Larry,
As others have found, I also just clicked on the exact link you provided. It does not show any button for 40% discount, only a button for 20%, as of Sunday May 3. It seems this site has a history of changing day to day? LOL ::)
"All journeys have secret destinations of which the traveler is unaware."Martin Buber

overover

Hi Larry,

we are talking from different Packs here:

The Pack "G-Master Keys Complete" (that Christopher and I meant) is showing only 20% Off (see the attached picture).

Your picture (in Reply #50) shows a different Pack ("G-Master Keys SX plus"). ;)


Best regards,
Chris



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● Everyone kept saying "That won't work!" - Then someone came along who didn't know that, and - just did it.
● Never put the Manual too far away: There's more in it than you think! ;-)

LaHawk

As of this writing, you are correct Chris. But they were BOTH 40% off when I posted the links, so it must be true that prices keep changing.  :-\
Larry   PSR-SX900
 My You Tube Recordings

Christopher Fernandes

I just made a purchase of SX-Complete pack for $60. It said 20% OFF on their website, but when I made a purchase on their PayPal link, it was 40% OFF. They sent me the pack via e-mail.
Current Instruments: Yamaha PSR-SX900/Epiphone DR100 AG

Gear: Yamaha KS-SW100 Subwoofer

Past Instruments: PSR-E413
Played: All Yamaha PSR-S, KORG PA700