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Started by bernamato, April 14, 2020, 07:21:29 AM

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bernamato

Who knows what do the row mean in the photo? I didn't find in the reference manual. Tks

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Lee Batchelor

Each row contains MIDI data. It appears as though there is nothing going on in that row and the software hasn't closed the gap. Does the style playback correctly?

Does the empty row go away after you save, close, and then open the editor again?
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bernamato

Sorry, I mean the two column

Lee Batchelor

Right, sorry. Now I see the red lines :).

Each beat of a bar is divided into 1,920 parts. That's what "PPQ" means (parts per quarter-note). In your screenshot, the first column under the 4/4 symbol is the beat of the bar. The next column is where in that beat your note was actually played. I'm not sure why they resolve the duration down to 1,920 parts but they do.

I found this info on page 83 of the Reference Manual. My manual is the original one that came with my Genos. I'm still running OS 1.3. I haven't updated my OS. Too many horror stories. Hence, why I'm still using the old manual. Your page numbers should be close if you have an updated manual.

Perhaps someone can chime in to make sure I have this right. I think it is :).
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bernamato


Joe H

The layout is different than on the PSRs, but I think the left column is the Bar number, the the right column is the note length.

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bernamato

thank you Joe. Where is the point in the ref. manual of PSR?
Another question, please.
@128 bpm how much is note length (in terms of ppq), at 1.3 in the picture?


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bernamato


Fred Smith

Quote from: bernamato on April 14, 2020, 08:57:40 AM
Might be 960?

At 1920ppq, 960 is 1/2 of a quarter note, so it's an eighth note.

Does that help?

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Quote from: Lee Batchelor on April 14, 2020, 08:13:16 AM
I'm still running OS 1.3. I haven't updated my OS. Too many horror stories.

You should upgrade to 2.02, Lee. It has many useful features.

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overover

Hi bernamato,

the value in the right column can be 0000 ... 1919 PPQ (= parts per quarter-note, also called "Ticks", in Yamaha jargon called "Clock" here).

If a note has exactly the length of 1 quarter-note, it will be shown as "0001 : 0000". So, the left column shows you the "full" quarter-notes and the right column the additional "Ticks". Only the combination of these two columns gives you the entire length of a certain note.

By the way: This is independent of the currently set TEMPO.


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Quote from: Fred Smith on April 14, 2020, 09:21:20 AM
You should upgrade to 2.02, Lee. It has many useful features. Cheers,
Fred
You're probably right, Fred. I resisted because at the time, I was very busy gigging (70+shows per year) and couldn't afford to deal with the horror stories posted here - and there were dozens! Now that Covid has laid waste to the gigging world, now may be a good time :).
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panos

Hi bernamato,

A) Starting point of each note(for correct timing)
The first column on the far left of the screen as our friends already said,
is the starting point of the note.
I think it is actually divided in 64ths:
1920/64=30

So if you want a 64th note you should add 30
1st 64th note starts at point 001:1:0000
2nd 64th note should start at point 001:1:0030

The "length" of the notes in the first column to the far left are:
30= 60th note
60=32th
120=16th
240=8th
480=4th
960=half note
1920= a whole note(It is actually starts at the next measure which is 001:2:0000)


B) Length of each note
For the far right column for which you have asked and it is the length of the note,
I think we can find what the actual length of each note should be by using the step recording as an example.(you can see some music sheet notes on the picture above)

I have just tried and I got the following results:
16th note length   0000:00384
8th note length     0000:00768
4th mote  length   0000:01536
Half  note length   0001:01152
Whole note length 0003:00384

If you don't want to sound like a midi, give the notes more or less timing by using your ears for the melodic parts.

ps
0000:00020 note length is what I saw Yamaha to use for the drum parts in the styles.

I hope someone can test the values above to see if they are correct.
I have used a 4/4 style to see the results.