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Started by voodoo, October 11, 2017, 08:45:23 AM

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jimlaing

Here is where I bought it.  It's great that this is so small, that you can just leave it plugged in even when you pack up your keyboard etc.!

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-MIDI-Interface-mi-1-Rev-3/dp/B01D61QK6W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1508870998&sr=8-1&keywords=quicco+sound+mi.1

Jim
Raleigh, NC, USA / Genos / Tyros5-61 / Lucas Nana 600 / other stuff

jimlaing

For this interested, here is an Excel file that I created to organize my Registrations.  Anyone could use it to help with the MIDI commands, just put in your own Reg file names and song names or whatever you have in your Registrations ... I had to make this to keep organized!  :-)

Jim

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Raleigh, NC, USA / Genos / Tyros5-61 / Lucas Nana 600 / other stuff

jimlaing

Hi ... Attached is another document that might be of interest to some.  If you want to send a MIDI command to change the Tempo of your keyboard, this doc explains how to construct the MIDI string to send. 

The way I use it is that I "re-use" some Registrations, for additional songs that are similar in style to a Registration I already have.  This allows me to have Registrations for many more songs without having to create so many Registrations.  In my case, I think I have about ~600+ registrations, representing maybe ~500-550 songs (some songs have more than one Reg per song).  I have about 1200 songs in my repertoire, and I didn't want to create 1200 Registrations!  :-)

So, if I'm looking for a Registration setting for a song that is similar (in style/feel/sounds) to another song, I can "re-use" that Registration for the new song.  Examples:

For "Comedy Tonight", I use a Reg. that I already had for "With A Little Bit Of Luck".
For "Jamaica Farewell", I use a Reg. that I already had for "When The Sun Goes Down"
For "Welcome To My World", I used a Reg. that I already had for "Tequila Sunrise".

Sometimes, when I want to "re-use" a Reg., I may want to re-use it but set the tempo a bit different for the new song in question.  I use the info in the doc attached to create a MIDI string for "Tempo change".  So, in my iPad (unrealBookapp), I'll have first the MIDI string to recall the Registration on the Tyros (soon Genos), then a MIDI string for changing the tempo.  This way, when I call up (for example) "Welcome To My World.pdf" on unrealBook app on my iPad, my Tyros immediately goes to the Registration for "Tequila Sunrise", changes the tempo to the tempo I want for "Welcome To My World", and I'm ready to go (in under a second).

It may seem a bit confusing - but this method has allowed me to be "ready-to-play" an additional 300-400 songs, without having to create 300-400 additional Registrations.  Since my primary "pool" of Registrations is ~600 strong, I still have plenty of variety.  Of course, some songs don't lend themselves to this, so they get their one new, custom Registration created.

The Excel file that I created (attached here) includes calculations to translate Decimal to Hex, saving me the work of having to do that by hand!  :-)

Jim

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Al Ram

Jim
thanks again for your time in describing your system.

I am very interested in the midi wireless adaptor m1.  In the back of the tyros5 there are two sets of 5-pin midi connectors.  Midi A and Midi B

IN - Midi A - OUT         IN - Midi B - OUT

so you connect the wireless adaptor to say Midi A IN and OUT ?

and then how do you pair it to the ipad ? does the app (in my case SongBook+) need to also be compatible with the adapter ?

I am currently using a printer cable to physically connect the T5 to the iPad using the Apple 'Camera' adapter. 

If i could make this wireless adapter work then is a couple of cables less to carry/worry.  Since you can just leave it plugged.

When you have a chance, it will be appreciated.  thanks in advance.

thanks again.
AL
San Diego/Tijuana

jimlaing

Hi - you could use with either MIDI jack set (A or B).  I have mine in MIDI B, since I have another device (a 2-octave keyboard) connected to MIDI A-IN.   To connect your app to the mi.1 connect device, you use whatever method the app has for Bluetooth (low-energy) MIDI.  Garage Band has a way to connect, and unrealBook, that app I use, also has a way to connect to a wireless MIDI device.  Once you connect, you're all set.  It should just work.

Hope this helps,
-Jim
Raleigh, NC, USA / Genos / Tyros5-61 / Lucas Nana 600 / other stuff

voodoo

Rudy,

Quote from: reya on October 11, 2017, 09:44:03 AM
- When my PK6 pedals are in MIDI control mode, they are configured so that some keys (pedals) send MIDI instructions to Tyros to advance registrations and such (MFC10 type things).
While other keys (pedals) of the PK6 send MIDI instructions to Mobilesheets Pro on the tablet, to advance pages, advance songs in playlists and such . . . .

I would like to do as you described. How did you connect the PK6 pedal with Tyros AND the tablet? Using the Midi Though jack of the Tyros? Or ober WLAN?

Uli
Yamaha Genos
Yamaha MODX7
Yamaha P-125 Digital Piano
Nord Electro 5D

reya

Uli,

No, sadly Tyros has no midi through . I use a simple midi Y cable instead

Rudy
Genos 1, PSR SX900, Roland PK6, Ketron SD1000
MSI Cubi 5 mini pc with IIyama prolite 24" touchscreen, MobileSheets

voodoo

Quote from: reya on November 15, 2017, 01:38:45 AM
Uli,

No, sadly Tyros has no midi through . I use a simple midi Y cable instead

Rudy

Ok, thank you for this info.

Uli
Yamaha Genos
Yamaha MODX7
Yamaha P-125 Digital Piano
Nord Electro 5D

pratcli

Can songbook+ be linked with a style or does a registration have to be created first. Newbie to this any help on basic hook up deeply appreciated. I would like to have ipad connect with style direct not registration if u know what I mean.

Fred Smith

Quote from: pratcli on March 26, 2018, 03:27:53 PM
Can songbook+ be linked with a style or does a registration have to be created first. Newbie to this any help on basic hook up deeply appreciated. I would like to have ipad connect with style direct not registration if u know what I mean.

SongBook works only with registrations.

Hope this helps,
Fred
Fred Smith,
Saskatoon, SK
Sun Lakes, AZ
Genos, Bose L1 compacts, Finale 2015
Check out my Registration Lessons

Pino

How can it ever be linked to a style?

Please read the manual first




jimlaing

Hi - I didn't know there was such thing as a MIDI Y-cable?! 
Jim
Raleigh, NC, USA / Genos / Tyros5-61 / Lucas Nana 600 / other stuff