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Genos 2 screen

Started by AndyB, February 08, 2024, 02:17:26 PM

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AndyB

Could someone with a Genos 2 please tell me if the screen has changed from the older style, resistive screen to a more tablet style screen
now, which is capacitive like wersi sonic range of instruments.

Thank you.
Technics KN2000, Technics KN650, Technics KN7000, Tyros 4 SE, Tyros 5, Genos 2, NP30 Piano,

konaboy32

it is a brand new panel, but with the same technology and feel as the previous G and the montange/modx.
no multitouch or gesture support like you might find on a tablet.
on related topic.
i find adjusting the on-screen faders to be very tricky.  when attempting to drag them up or down they often get stuck and the numeric number pad appears which is a bit irritating.
it seems to work better if you tap the fader and then use the data wheel.

AndyB

Thank you for the reply, it is crazy in this day and age why they would not go down the route of capacitive touch screen,
you can get a 10-inch touch screen android tablet for £61 on Amazon, if the cheapest tablets and phone can have capacitive screen why can't Yamaha do that, all other screens on other keyboards as far as I am aware that are touch are capacitive.
Technics KN2000, Technics KN650, Technics KN7000, Tyros 4 SE, Tyros 5, Genos 2, NP30 Piano,

KurtAgain

Well, Yamaha has always been very conservative when it comes to displays.  ::)

EileenL

The screen is now anti glare and is a lot clearer mov under bright light.
Eileen

pjd

Quote from: KurtAgain on February 08, 2024, 05:09:38 PM
Well, Yamaha has always been very conservative when it comes to displays.  ::)

Thanks, Kurt. Depends on Yamaha's choice of embedded host processor, too. Genos1 uses the integrated display support system in the Sitara AM4376. A limitation? Another pressure point is multi-touch support in Linux.

Not trying to make excuses, but there are a few other factors involved.

-- pj

konaboy32

yeah, even more surprising that the screen didn't get an update in the new montage, the screen tech felt already quite old when the original montage was released.

but at the end of the day, it works well and is good enough i suppose. as long as you don't compare it to an ipad, it'll be fine.   just get over it.

KurtAgain

@pjd, you are right. But it reminds me of my PSR-S900 from 2008. At that time there would have been displays with better viewing angle dependence "for a few dollars more". But now the display stopped working anyway.

pjd

Thanks, folks.

I really wish I could take a peek at the service manuals for both Montage M and Genos2. I'm quite curious to see what has changed.

I doubt if the manuals are available through Yamaha 24x7 at this time. Means that I'll have to call. Having a tooth extracted today, so it may be a while...  :'(

All the best -- pj

BogdanH

@pjd
You have manual of Genos1?? -I ask because I can't find it anywhere on internet.

Bogdan
PSR-SX700 on K&M-18820 stand
Playing for myself on Youtube

pjd

Quote from: BogdanH on February 09, 2024, 02:06:40 PM
@pjd
You have manual of Genos1?? -I ask because I can't find it anywhere on internet.

Hi Bogdan --

Not surprising because Yamaha tries to control distribution and access to service manuals. Eventually, service manuals do escape to the Internet.

Yamaha policy blows hot and cold on willingness to sell manuals. Authorized service techs can get them. Last time I called and requested a service manual, I kind of got hassled. Oh, well.

All the best -=- pj