My new Genos2 is useless without the Genos CPF Expansion Packs (Resolved!)

[bluali]

I got my new Genos2 last week and I was hoping that I could use it in my Sunday music gathering but I noticed that all Yamaha CPF Expansion Packs for Genos is not working on the new Genos2. Therefore my new Genos2 is still uselessly sitting on the bench until I can get the Genos2 compatible CPF Expansion Packs.
By the way, I played my new Genos2 and so far not impressed and  I could not tell that there is a huge differences between the old Genos and the new one. Probably in future after some performances with the new Genos2 I get a better impression. (see Attached for the list of Genos CPF that I use , the green ones are already converted for Genos2 the RED ones I use a lot and it is not converted yet.)
Thanks,
Ali


Thanks to Yamaha support and Chris, Today Dec 21st, I got the Expansion packs I needed on my Genos2. However, I still use my Genos1 for all holiday events this month and I will start using my Genos2 for next year.
Thanks again Chris for providing the download link for the Yamaha expansion packs. 🙏

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[ton37]

Mmmm... one should not buy a new keyboard to use and judge it solely for the packs. Then you could better stay with your Genos1. But looking at your avatar it looks like you are a loyal customer and you want the latest, no matter if you like it or not? Yamaha thanks you

Fyi. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8bB-ARxsnTk ? The difference (or not?) 'Grand Piano G1 vs, G2'' 

[DaPaleRider]

That's the problem with being one of the first with a new product. However, I believe that Yamaha should have arranged this at launch

[DrakeM]

I have never used the packs that I have with my PSR-S950 keyboard. Instead I took all the styles from the packs that I use and revoiced them all with only the voices that the original keyboard uses. When I upgrade to the next keyboard, I want my styles to sound the same and have no issues when I make the switch.

[EileenL]

With so many great new voices on Geno2 I shall not be using many packs at all I have loaded the DX pack and the complete pack which has just been converted to load into YEM so far and will take my time sorting out if the others are worth loading for my use.

[kla4]

I fully agree with Eileen. Genos2 styles en voices are soo much better sounding, that is why (for me) there is no need to install 'aged' expansion packs.

[robbiedoes]

I totally disagree. The older Premium Packs are not outdatet. Some old voices are even part of the Genos Complete Pack (like the SA2 Panflutes, SA2 Trombone, etc). So what's old and not worth enough??

All the Premium Packs are worth it and do add valuable voices. Like the WhistleFlutes of the Celtic Pack, the guitars of the Latin Pack, etc. I've build many registrations with them and can't wait to have them back.

[spaceair]

I got my new Genos2 last week and I was hoping that I could use it in my Sunday music gathering but I noticed that all Yamaha CPF Expansion Packs for Genos is not working on the new Genos2. Therefore my new Genos2 is still uselessly sitting on the bench until I can get the Genos2 compatible CPF Expansion Packs.
By the way, I played my new Genos2 and so far not impressed and  I could not tell that there is a huge differences between the old Genos and the new one. Probably in future after some performances with the new Genos2 I get a better impression. (see Attached for the list of Genos CPF that I use , the green ones are already converted for Genos2 the RED ones I use a lot and it is not converted yet.)
Thanks,
Ali

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[bluali]

After two weeks of purchasing Genos2, still most of my Genos1 expansion packs is not working on my Genos2. so the new expensive keyboard is so far useless for me and I keep using my lovely Genos1. I may wait some more weeks.  if I could not find a way of using my expansion packs on Genos2,  I will return it to Guitar Center before my returning period expires.
Ali

[Wim NL]

These packs I successfully installed in my new Genos2

Celtic_Genos
Stage Pack
Live Organ
SA2 Alto_Sax_Genos
SA2 BaritonSax_Genos
SA2 TenorSax Genos
SA2 Trombone_Genos
SA2 FemaleVocals_Genos
EuroOrganArtist_T5
Fiesta Caliente
Sountrack_Genos
Alpen_Genos
BallroomStyle_Genos
Best of Europe_Genos
Choir&Vocals_Genos
Church&Xmas_Genos
CountryMusician_Genos
Entertainer 2016_Genos
Euro&US Organ_Genos
VintageKey_Genos
VintageSynth_Genos
DX7 Pack
Genos Complete Pack
SFX-1_&_Karneval
ORGAN B3 IK

[overover]

After two weeks of purchasing Genos2, still most of my Genos1 expansion packs is not working on my Genos2. so the new expensive keyboard is so far useless for me and I keep using my lovely Genos1. I may wait some more weeks.  if I could not find a way of using my expansion packs on Genos2,  I will return it to Guitar Center before my returning period expires.
Ali

Hi Ali,

Could you list the pack names here that you use on Genos1 but cannot yet use on Genos2?


Best regards,
Chris

[soryt]

@Wim.Nl , where do you get the Celtic pack ? The "old" pack I have don't work on the Genos 2 

[overover]

These packs I successfully installed in my new Genos2

Celtic_Genos
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How did you manage to install the "Celtic_Genos" Premium Pack on Genos2? Do you have a non-protected .ppf version of this pack?

In my case, the Celtic_Genos .cpf can only be imported into the YEM if the Genos1 install target is also present. However, when you then switch to the Genos2 Install Target, the Celtic_Genos Pack cannot be selected for installation, as expected.

The "Celtic" .ppf version I know was originally intended for PSR-S770 and has completely different content than the Tyros5/Genos1 Celtic Premium Pack.


Best regards,
Chris

[bluali]

Hi Ali,

Could you list the pack names here that you use on Genos1 but cannot yet use on Genos2?


Best regards,
Chris

sure,
I already showed them in red in my post attachment. however I managed to use A5000 Middle Eastern pack on Genos2 but the rest shown in red does not work in my Genos2.

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=67957.0;attach=36775

Thank you so much!

Ali

[Wim NL]

The Celtic pack was already loaded in YEM.
I could unlock this in Genos and Genos 2 in YEM
File name Celtic_T5.CPF

[overover]

The Celtic pack was already loaded in YEM.
I could unlock this in Genos and Genos 2 in YEM
File name Celtic_T5.CPF

Hi Wim,

What does the pack icon of this Celtic pack look like in YEM: Is it a black icon with the yellow writing "PREMIUM Celtic" and a harp shown? Or is it a blue icon "Voice & Style Expansion CELTIC"?


Best regards,
Chris

[Wim NL]

Black wit Premium Celic Pack see Attachment

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[Del]

I have that Celtic File I tried to load it into YEM I got so far it asked me for my ID and password to continue, but I couldn't continue because I do not know the ID and password

[Gunnar Jonny]

I have that Celtic File I tried to load it into YEM I got so far it asked me for my ID and password to continue, but I couldn't continue because I do not know the ID and password

Could it be that your pack is from the time when we had to pay and Keyboard ID was necessary?
Try download the pack here: https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/contents/keyboards/vse/index.html

Those are free of charge, and direct download link is also posted in the Genos forum. Chris has been very kind to provide links that point straight to download.

[Del]

Hi Gunner did you get you G2 today?
That might of been the case where I paid for the Celtic pack for the T5

The Celtic pack has not been converted yet for G2 and not listed yet on Chris's List

Del

[Gunnar Jonny]

Hi Gunner did you get you G2 today?

Mine is still 'on the way', looks like it's very imortant to keep it stored for several days at each terminal along the journey.
Scheduled to be here the 11th, so changed to the 13th but still not arrived here. So maybe tomorrow, who knows.   
Oh well, I have the new Pa5, and the days without G2 gives me more time to exlore and get to know it.
Never as bad that it's not for any good they say. 

Congrats, enjoy and have lots of fun playing your new G2!

[bluali]

Could it be that your pack is from the time when we had to pay and Keyboard ID was necessary?
Try download the pack here: https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/contents/keyboards/vse/index.html

Those are free of charge, and direct download link is also posted in the Genos forum. Chris has been very kind to provide links that point straight to download.

No, I tested again, "Greetings From Italy" and many other packs with ".cpf" still does not work on GENOS2

Thanks,
Ali

[bluali]

Hi Ali,

Could you list the pack names here that you use on Genos1 but cannot yet use on Genos2?

Best regards,
Chris

Hi Chris,
thank you for the efforts. Is there any way to convert .cpf to .ppf for the following expansion packs?

1   Balkan & Turkey - Genos/Tyros5
2   Greetings From Italy Version 2 - Genos
3   South East Europe - Genos/Tyros5
4   Celtic - Genos/Tyros5
5   Choir & Vocals - Genos/Tyros5

Thanks again,
Ali

[EileenL]

Choir and Vocal has been converted for Genos2 and works fine.

[Danny1972]

Hi,

I'm really pleased. I've managed to install about 80% of the packs I had on G1 including the Italo Dance & EDM 3rd party packs I purchased in the past and for any of the other packs that don't currently work such as the Greetings packs I saved them all as individual styles before trading the G1 and use them in that way for now. So I've pretty much got everything I had before working with very little effort 😊

[bluali]

Hi,

I'm really pleased. I've managed to install about 80% of the packs I had on G1 including the Italo Dance & EDM 3rd party packs I purchased in the past and for any of the other packs that don't currently work such as the Greetings packs I saved them all as individual styles before trading the G1 and use them in that way for now. So I've pretty much got everything I had before working with very little effort 😊

FYI, It is almost impossible to backup voices and drumkits from Yamaha CPF packs. I create  my own styles based on factory voices and drum kits AND Yamaha CPF packs. without those packs my styles does not sound good. While I am waiting for Yamaha to provide the backward compatibility for its product, I still using my Genos1 and turned off and set aside my Genos2 two weeks ago.

[Danny1972]

FYI, It is almost impossible to backup voices and drumkits from Yamaha CPF packs. I create  my own styles based on factory voices and drum kits AND Yamaha CPF packs. without those packs my styles does not sound good. While I am waiting for Yamaha to provide the backward compatibility for its product, I still using my Genos1 and turned off and set aside my Genos2 two weeks ago.

Hello,

Yes I know & appreciate that, however a few things maybe to consider.

Have you tried looking at the packs that do work to see if those sounds and kits appear there instead? A number of the sounds (and styles) are duplicated across the packs, especially the European and Latin ones so you may be able to use that as a work around.

I wasn't suggesting this be your final solution, just something to get you by until they are available again.

From all the packs I use, these are what work and have currently in my G2.

A.Style Country&Jazz (Genos).ppf
A.Style Dance (Genos).ppf
A.Style Latin (Genos).ppf
A.Style Movie & Show (Genos).ppf
A.Style Pop (Genos).ppf
A.Style R&B (Genos).ppf
A.Style RetroPop (Genos).ppf
A.Style Rock (Genos).ppf
Alpen_Genos2.ppf
ASXmas (S970).ppf
Audio Dance Styles.ppf
Audio Latin Styles.ppf
Ba-Ba.S499.UVN
BallroomStyle_Genos2.ppf
Best_of_Europe_Genos2.ppf
BossaVoices.T015.UVI
Brazilian (S970).ppf
Brazilian_ELA-1.ppf
CelticGirls.S262.UVN
Choir&Vocals_Genos2.ppf
Church&Xmas_Genos2.ppf
ChurchOrgan_ELA-1.ppf
CountryMusician_Genos2.ppf
DX7 Pack.cpf
EasternEurope_ELA-1.ppf
Entertainer2016_Genos2.ppf
Euro Dance (S975 Plus).ppf
Euro&US Organ_Genos2.ppf
FM Xpanded.ppf
Genos Complete Pack.cpf
GirlDoo.S271.UVN
Indian Devotional (S970).ppf
Indian Entertainer (S970).ppf
ItaloDiscoSynthwave.ppf
Japan_ELA-1.ppf
Latin-EU (S970).ppf
Magic Dance.ppf
Mexican (S970).ppf
Norteno & Mariachi (S970).ppf
Oriental (S970).ppf
Romance Latino (SX900).ppf
Salsa Pack (SX900).ppf
Ultimate EDM.ppf
Vietnamese (S970).ppf
VintageKey_Genos2.ppf
VintageSynth_Genos2.ppf
WesternEurope_ELA-1.ppf


Out of the rest that don't work are the following:

Balkan & Turkey (Genos).cpf
Celtic (Genos).cpf
Colors of Iberia (Genos).cpf
Colors of Iberia2 (Genos).cpf
Colors of Romania (Genos).cpf
Colors of Romania v2 (Genos).cpf
Cumbia (Genos).cpf
Euro Dance 2016 (Genos).cpf
Fiesta Caliente (Genos).cpf
Fiesta Caliente2 (Genos).cpf
GenosV2.0 SuperiorPack.cpf
Greetings from Italy (Genos).cpf
Greetings from Italy v2 (Genos).cpf
Indonesian2 (Genos).cpf
Indonesian3 (Genos).cpf
Latin (Genos).cpf
MexicanBanda (Genos).cpf
Salsa (Genos).cpf
SouthEast Europe (Genos).cpf

There will be cross overs with some sounds and styles from both packs that do and don't work. It just depends how desperate you are to use them.

All the best,
Danny

[bluali]

Hello,

Yes I know & appreciate that, however a few things maybe to consider.

Have you tried looking at the packs that do work to see if those sounds and kits appear there instead? A number of the sounds (and styles) are duplicated across the packs, especially the European and Latin ones so you may be able to use that as a work around.................................
There will be cross overs for some sounds and styles from packs that don't work in the packs that do. It just depends who desperate you are to use them.

All the best,
Danny

Hi Danny,
Thank you for the advise. I spent some times and did that. In the beginning I managed to make 80% of my styles work on Genos2 and the rest need revoicing and replacing the drumkits with something similar. However, still could not see a huge advantage of using Genos2 that convince me to switch the fully functional Genos1 to 80% functional Genos2.
Best.,
Ali