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[danw]

Hello All-

I'm a new member but have owned a PSR9000 for a long time.

I want to add new piano sounds but have never updated the overall software, added new midi software, or replaced the floppy drive with an emulator.

Can i connect my 9K to a computer loaded with software that has piano sounds? Will the 9K keyboard then be able to play the new library of sounds?

Dan

Ps. I am willing to pay or barter for someone's help! Hourly rate? Experience with the 9k would be a plus...

[Ronbo]

Hello danw

Your keyboard is very old and most of the members here can't really help you..Sorry about that.

Thus, no responders.

But I found this thread that you may want to read.

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,56895.0.html

Have a great day

regards

ron j

[Toril S]

You cannot add new sounds to the keyboard, but you can edit existing sounds by giving the more reverb or attack, and save the changes as a vce file.

[MarkF_48]

Hello All-

Can i connect my 9K to a computer loaded with software that has piano sounds? Will the 9K keyboard then be able to play the new library of sounds?

Dan

Hi Dan, I think what you may be thinking of is a 'VST' (Virtual Studio Technology) which allows you play 'virtual instruments' that reside in the computer using the MIDI note data sent from your PSR9000. A VST instrument can be a stand alone software or it can be played as a plugin within a DAW (digital audio workstation) software.  Besides VST software in your computer you would need a USB audio interface with MIDI connections to send the MIDI data into the computer and as well output get audio output from the computer to speakers (external, not the speakers in the PSR9000 or headphones. A decent USB interface with MIDI may cost $150-$200 and upwards depending  on the manufacturer and features. DAW software that can use VST is widely priced (I use Reaper which is around $70 I think). The VST's can be free or paid for. Paid for VST's may tend to be of better quality. Your computer needs to be up to the task as well for speed, memory, an hard drive space for DAW and VST software. There are tutorials that can be found on Youtube and elsewhere that can head you in the right direction. Yup, it can be somewhat of a technical challenge putting it all together and getting all of it to work.

This video may give an idea of piano VST's.....
https://youtu.be/vTzFG1EnlVE

And more than piano's, many popular synthesizers have VST's such as...

KORG's Triton.....
https://youtu.be/AnL33kRxIUs

Roland XV-5080...
https://youtu.be/tm5L9DBVIoA

Example of a USB interface that has MIDI......
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Scarlet4i4G3--focusrite-scarlett-4i4-3rd-gen-usb-recording-interface

[BogdanH]

@danw
MarkF gave you solution that works. The question now is, how familiar you're with working on computer? I ask that because that solution, although very flexible, isn't really comfortable. Besides that, most of us wish to use keyboard as independent as possible (simply turn keyboard on and play).
My opinion is, it just isn't worth investing any money into PSR9000. If you plan to use keyboard frequently enough, get some newer keyboard model instead. Maybe something like used PSR-S970/S770 which shouldn't be that expensive -I know, expensive is a relative term 

Bogdan

[danw]

Hello danw
Your keyboard is very old and most of the members here can't really help you..Sorry about that.

Thus, no responders.

But I found this thread that you may want to read.

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,56895.0.html






Thank you Ron for responding! I had read the 2020 thread but hoped new tech might help. I am old, too, but still willing to learn a few tricks or two./size]

[danw]

You cannot add new sounds to the keyboard, but you can edit existing sounds by giving the more reverb or attack, and save the changes as a vce file.[/i]

Hey Torll

Thanks for the tip. Do you have experience with the 9K? Will Mark or MarkF's suggestions not work with my model?

[Amwilburn]

You cannot add new sounds to the keyboard, but you can edit existing sounds by giving the more reverb or attack, and save the changes as a vce file.

You actually *can* add new voices on the PSR9000... but you'll need floppy disks and flash ram in MB not, GB!

In other words, very difficult to track those down now. PSR9000 is over 20 years old at this point (technics keyboards went out of business 21 years ago, and the 9000 is slightly older than that)

Mark

[danw]

Hi Dan, I think what you may be thinking of is a 'VST' (Virtual Studio Technology) which allows you play 'virtual instruments' that reside in the computer using the MIDI note data sent from your PSR9000. A VST instrument can be a stand alone software or it can be played as a plugin within a DAW (digital audio workstation) software.  Besides VST software in your computer you would need a USB audio interface with MIDI connections to send the MIDI data into the computer and as well output get audio output from the computer to speakers (external, not the speakers in the PSR9000 or headphones. A decent USB interface with MIDI may cost $150-$200 and upwards depending  on the manufacturer and features. DAW software that can use VST is widely priced (I use Reaper which is around $70 I think). The VST's can be free or paid for. Paid for VST's may tend to be of better quality. Your computer needs to be up to the task as well for speed, memory, an hard drive space for DAW and VST software. There are tutorials that can be found on Youtube and elsewhere that can head you in the right direction. Yup, it can be somewhat of a technical challenge putting it all together and getting all of it to work.

This video may give an idea of piano VST's.....
https://youtu.be/vTzFG1EnlVE

And more than piano's, many popular synthesizers have VST's such as...

KORG's Triton.....
https://youtu.be/AnL33kRxIUs

Roland XV-5080...
https://youtu.be/tm5L9DBVIoA

Example of a USB interface that has MIDI......
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Scarlet4i4G3--focusrite-scarlett-4i4-3rd-gen-usb-recording-interface

Mark, thank you so kindly for taking the time to detail this for me!

I was heading down this path already but stopped to make sure i wasnt wasting too much time.  I plan to upgrade the internal midi (Bedesem?), max the ram, upgrade to a floppy emulator which is USB, update the 9k overall software, and finally add a hard drive.

The DAW and such I will have to study. Connecting all this is on the teetering edge of my experience!  I do have Komplete Kontrol and the Native library waiting in the wings with a specific piano sound, which is all I really want. Just that piano.

Thanks again [/size]

[danw]

@danw
MarkF gave you solution that works. The question now is, how familiar you're with working on computer? I ask that because that solution, although very flexible, isn't really comfortable. Besides that, most of us wish to use keyboard as independent as possible (simply turn keyboard on and play).
My opinion is, it just isn't worth investing any money into PSR9000. If you plan to use keyboard frequently enough, get some newer keyboard model instead. Maybe something like used PSR-S970/S770 which shouldn't be that expensive -I know, expensive is a relative term 

Bogdan

[/i]

Hello Bogdan  Food for thought, for sure. So far, we are talking about $350, and hours of cursing under my breath as a i try to initially connect it up, testing my knowledge and endurance with computers. The updating is less expensive than the PSR models you mention but the newer models are perhaps worth the ease of it all.

When i bought the keyboard in 2000 it was the king of the Yamaha line- about $3-5 thousand i think (my single man days).  A huge investment for me at the time and i loved it immediately. I remember seeing artists like Lyle Mays and Rick Wakemen with the 9k in their arsenal. The gigging machine among many.

Now it has SCSI connectors and Mg memory limitations. But it still is a monster, albeit silver-haired and will never leave home. It has mostly what i want- to just play. I will not leave behind my old friend. I am not implying you would. I just feel connected to this old war horse.

[danw]

You actually *can* add new voices on the PSR9000... but you'll need floppy disks and flash ram in MB not, GB!

In other words, very difficult to track those down now. PSR9000 is over 20 years old at this point (technics keyboards went out of business 21 years ago, and the 9000 is slightly older than that)

Mark

[/i]

Hey Mark  I sorta read this somewhere but it left me with more questions. I have floppies, and have not switched the floppy reader to an emulator with USB yet. Is the basic idea to put my modern piano samples in the right format and load via floppy or emulator?  Or are you talking about adding older disks with existing voices? I'll start hunting around to read up on this. If you have any further suggestions, glad to hear them.

 

[Amwilburn]

Unfortunately, it's been so long since I've had a PSR9000 in front of me, I can't remember if you could purchase downloaded samples, but you could transfer them from floppy to the hard drive (assuming you had 1 installed), then load them. The max sample size was 32mb, and the max total memory possible memory is 64mb, I doubt you'll get a small enough piano sample (although there are some <30mb piano samples out there)

If you don't have a hard drive, the largest internal size was either 5gb or 8gb, forgot which (and I believe the T1 was similar)

Like I said, hard to source parts now

[Gemor]

Hello Dan, have just read your posts and replies. I have a 9000 for sale and have changed my mind about selling it and am trying to remove the ad from the site. I am old too, 76. I am more mechanically inclined than learning the things the 9000 can do. I have upgrade my 9000 and am wondering if you got an emulator you could get more piano sounds on one of the usb's you can purchase from this tutorial? George

[danw]

Hello Dan, have just read your posts and replies. I have a 9000 for sale and have changed my mind about selling it and am trying to remove the ad from the site. I am old too, 76. I am more mechanically inclined than learning the things the 9000 can do. I have upgrade my 9000 and am wondering if you got an emulator you could get more piano sounds on one of the usb's you can purchase from this tutorial? George

Hi George! Thanks for the contact. I have not done any of the suggestions but will. From what i gathered here, the piano sound i want is too large of a file. I will try other sounds, some from the tutorial. I may try these down the road: (https://www.planetkeyboard.com/product/planetkeyboard-stylevault-sff1-bundle-11725-styles-songstyles-ots/   

I am glad you are staying with the 9000 family. But i must admit, the Genos line is very temping.