Hammered action Genos

[guitpic1]

I'm reading on this forum that some folks think the Genos should have a better keyboard action

Here ya go.  Only $21,000 😊

https://youtu.be/yUzKspFb69Y?si=wDaZqe4TTiJaDyjE

[EileenL]

I can't see the point of this. You are just showing us a video of a Ten Thousand Pound Piano with the styles and sounds of Genos1 on it.

[pjd]

Hmmm, One needs to tread carefully when considering the Clavinova CVP or CSP against Genos or other so-called synth- or organ-action arranger keyboards.

Many Clavinova pianos have auto-accompaniment features, styles and sounds. The CVP-909 is roughly at the level of Genos1 (according to Mark Wilburn who plays and sells both).

Real caution is needed when comparing functions like OTS, registration, section control buttons, expansion memory and a long list of other stuff.

So, I'm buying a close-out CSP-170 for about $4,000 USD. It has auto-accompaniment (adaptive styles) and the voices/styles are at roughly the SX700 level. Being a Clavinova, the piano is head and shoulders above the arranger line (even G2). But, all control is performed through the Smart Pianist app and it isn't possible to add new voices and styles.

The arranger vs. Clavinova area is one where customers need to study and inform themselves in order to make a good decision WRT their own needs.

Fortunately, we have quite a few people on the Forum who can guide interested players/customers.

All the best -- pj

[Amwilburn]

Hmmm, One needs to tread carefully when considering the Clavinova CVP or CSP against Genos or other so-called synth- or organ-action arranger keyboards.

Many Clavinova pianos have auto-accompaniment features, styles and sounds. The CVP-909 is roughly at the level of Genos1 (according to Mark Wilburn who plays and sells both).

Real caution is needed when comparing functions like OTS, registration, section control buttons, expansion memory and a long list of other stuff.

So, I'm buying a close-out CSP-170 for about $4,000 USD. It has auto-accompaniment (adaptive styles) and the voices/styles are at roughly the SX700 level. Being a Clavinova, the piano is head and shoulders above the arranger line (even G2). But, all control is performed through the Smart Pianist app and it isn't possible to add new voices and styles.

The arranger vs. Clavinova area is one where customers need to study and inform themselves in order to make a good decision WRT their own needs.

Fortunately, we have quite a few people on the Forum who can guide interested players/customers.

All the best -- pj

Yup, good memory. G1 is roughly the same sound library as CVP809/909, with a few subtle differences (obviously better piano in the CVP's, but also a few extra 'layered' voices to make up for only have R1 and R2, like PizzGlocken)

For fun, the CSP170 is based on the CVP705 chipset (and keys, however the speakers aren't quite as clear as the lower wattage one on the CVP705; but they *did* add a ton of bass, which is missing somewhat on the 705/805), which is again the same level as the PSrs970/sx700 (except oddly without the Cymbal kit, nor direct access to any of the GM/XG/GS sounds, despite them already being in there).

I digress; the main difference between a Genos and a CVP809/909 other than the piano sounds and wonderful weighted keys, is the Genos has 3 sounds layers on the Right vs 2 on the CVP, the Genos has expansion memory and multipads, the CVP's do not, and the CVP's have insanely good built in speakers. They also changed a lot of the styles, but the styles are fully compatible across all 3 models.

Alas, the Registrations are not.

If you need it to feel and sound like a piano, get the CVP. If you need multipads and expension memory, and arpeggiators, get the Genos.

If you need both, and your wife won't kick you out of the house for it, get both!

Mark