Editing Styles & Registrations

shadowhankron · November 07, 2019, 06:29:08 AM

Hi

The last few days, doing more exploring on the Genos, I have many Song Styles on USB stick from Tyros 2 and PSR s970 Keyboards.

(1) I call up the Song Style from the USB and I edit it in the Genos by changing Drums , and other voices, I then try out the Style and it sounds fine, then I try to SAVE it back to the USB stick where original Song was..but after saving it with the Save Here reminder, I then try another style to play, then back to new edited style in USB but older voives are there not the edited voices, so what am I doing wrong.

(2) I can save these edited Styles to Registrations 1 - 10 no problem, but would rather save back to USB, is it possible to save it from Registrations onto USB as a seperate style.

Sorry for long questions.

regards

Ronnie

EileenL · November 07, 2019, 07:49:17 AM

Hello Ronnie,
When you have edited your style to your liking then you must go to Style creator to save it back as you want it. This is really simple to do. Select Style creator from the Menu. Now without doing anything else press save and save back on your USB and the new settings will be written in as you want them.

valimaties · November 07, 2019, 07:53:06 AM

First of all, editing style it has to be done in Style Creator. Even if you change some of mixer's parameters, you have to open the style in Style creator, don NOT use mixer for changing parameters outside Style Creator, because you will broke the style. As Yamaha say also, in Owner manuals at Mixer pages, the correct use of Mixer for style is in Style Creator!!!

2. The settings you make in registration for a style it will overwrite the settings of style when you press the registration button. You can save registration settings to style, if your style has another settings, by loading registration (press on registration button), and immediate you will open Style Creator and save the style by overwriting it. In this way, the setting from registration you have "transferred" to style.

Regards,
Vali

EileenL · November 07, 2019, 08:09:24 AM

Over the years I have edited loads of styles in the way I described above and they have all worked as I wanted. If just changing drums and voices this is so simple to do and will not be confusing to the member who wants to do just this. Let us not bling him with science at this point.

DrakeM · November 07, 2019, 08:37:02 AM

You can do it as Eileen has explained, but changing a part in any of the MAINs will change it all the PARTS of the whole style to the exact same setting.

However it is best to use the Style Creator as THEN you can change EACH voice in the MAINs individually (ie set different Volume levels and a different Voice).

valimaties · November 07, 2019, 08:43:13 AM

Quote from: EileenL on November 07, 2019, 08:09:24 AM
...If just changing drums and voices this is so simple to do and will not be confusing to the member who wants to do just this. Let us not bling him with science at this point.

I said how it must be done in the correct way, without damage the style! You can do as you want, he can do as he want, I say to do how Yamaha recommends and how it has to be done.

If you use different voices in different variations on the same channel, you will broke the style by changing parameters outside Style Creator.
Video will come

shadowhankron · November 07, 2019, 05:21:39 PM

Hi Eileen

Thanks for the reply..what you said worked out great Thanks..however I seem to not able save the right hand voices and multipad with the edited styles.

Regards
Ronnie

shadowhankron · November 07, 2019, 05:25:55 PM

Valiematies

Thanks for your advice to my question

Ronnie

DrakeM

Thank you also for helping out ...🎵🎵🎵🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹

Regards
Ronnie

Fred Smith · November 07, 2019, 05:27:30 PM

Quote from: shadowhankron on November 07, 2019, 05:21:39 PM
Hi Eileen

Thanks for the reply..what you said worked out great Thanks..however I seem to not able save the right hand voices and multipad with the edited styles.

Regards
Ronnie

To save voices, you must modify the OTS of the style (Memory + OTS button).

Cheers,
Fred

EileenL · November 08, 2019, 05:50:04 AM

Hi Ronnie,
Select the voices and multi Pad you want saved with your style. Now press Memory and the OTS you want it in. The screen will tell you that this OTS has changed and do you want to save. If you are doing all four buttons answer No. When you get to the last button Answer yes and then save it where you want it.

shadowhankron · November 08, 2019, 06:53:06 AM

Fred...&. Eileen

Thank you....hopefully it will work for me

Eileen, why do you say No to all 4 buttons on OTS, is this the same for multipad, just one button each,. Slightly confused as to why I cannot select the 3 OTS and Lower buttons as well as the 4 Multipad buttons..however many thanks for helping out, I have tons of things to understand about the Geno's , and next week's release of OS 2 will be another thing to understand about...but as is said " you learn something new each day of life"

Regards
Ronnie
🎹🎶🎤🎺🎸🎸🎶🎵🎶

EileenL · November 08, 2019, 10:07:11 AM

Hi Ronnie,
My instructions are for if you want to change all four OTS settings and add a different multi pad bank to them also if you want a left hand voice to be on. If you only want to alter one OTS then once saved you would press YES to accept it had been altered and over right the existing one. If you are altering all four then it is silly to say yes and save four times so you say No to three and Yes to forth one.