Why no audio style development

[andyg]

I hardly ever use them. Touted as being the best thing since sliced bread, you very soon came across all the issues that have been mentioned above, and I found another. One of my exam students was working out a very complex arrangement for her Grade 7 exam. We needed to change styles part way through the tune and that would have involved seamlessly switching from a regular style to an audio style. Of course you can't do that, as the audio style has to load in. You ended up with a gap in the drum part. Useless. We had to use regular styles throughout.

With the advent of Revo drums (and to be honest it's not before time as VST drums have been using round robin samples [wave cycling if you wish] for years), they were no longer needed. I think Yamaha saw audio styles as a stop gap until Revo drums were ready.

As for the other parts of a style being audio, I'm not convinced. BIAB does it with ease, of course, as you've told it exactly what chords, fills, breaks etc you want in advance and it calculates what it's going to do before starting playback. I've created some great sound tracks with it. But when I tried the Ketron Audya, I had problems getting it to change chords predictably and smoothly. And when I started asking it for things like Fm11 or D7b9#5, it couldn't deliver. That was a few years ago and I haven't tried one since, maybe they've got things to work better. If full audio styles had been a runner, then Yamaha (and, as has been said, they did the legwork on it and got the patents) would have surely run with it.

Conspicuous by their absence on Genos and SX series keyboards, I think Yamaha have consigned them to the bin. Good riddance to them IMHO.

[Toril S]

Yes, good riddance!

[Enildo]

Hello friends!

I see things as follows:
01. I have a style that I use to play music from the 60s, I have this style for many years, and I don't see the need to change anything about it. So I recorded real guitars (audio) and put it on one of the tracks and it greatly improved the quality of my performance.
If you have a good audio drum beat or if you have a good audio guitar you don't have to be poking. If you want to change something, it will take more work, of course, but it will be worth every time it has been spent;
02. About the time change, when a style is recorded at time 90, for example, we will hardly play that style at a time of 50 or 140, etc. We usually shift up or down a bit (80 <-90-> 100), which audio style suits very well.
03. When using regional styles audio styles are best. To this day yamaha has not been able to record a good style of "Forró", a style genuinely made and played in northeastern Brazil, which provided. The styles of Forró, Xote, Vaneira recorded by our own hands give 10 to 0 in what yamaha has produced to this day.

I hope you understand this text, as translations sometimes do not convey 100% of what we mean.

Enildo

[hammer]

Exactly what Drake posted!!!  I never use Audio styles because they can not be saved to a thumb drive or actually used to setup gig sets.   When that changes I would use them.

Deane

[EileenL]

With Genos you can save to a USB stick. You need to load the styles firstly via YEM you can then save them to a UBS Stick or User. Once done you can then remove from YEM.

[hammer]

Hi Eileen,
I don't use YEM.  I want to simply be able to save a style and rename it as a song like we do with all other styles and place it in a folder such as 1940's or 1960's.  So far, the audio styles do not allow me to do this.   Maybe someday.

Deane

[hans1966]

In my humble opinion, I think audio styles are designed
To play in concert. In one occasion I used only the MIDI parts of an Audio style to create a song, since I cannot edit the Audio style. Obviously some will say that you can record and edit the Audio in a DAW, but I prefer to create and edit my sequences directly on the keyboard. Greetings. Hans

[Joe H]

There is too big of a sonic difference between the audio drums and the rest of the style Parts. Yamaha can do better by improving the drum (MIDI) samples instead of using audio drums.

Sometimes a good idea just doesn't work... IE; audio styles.

Joe H

[Toril S]

Audio styles make me sigh audibly!

[EileenL]

As it  is only the drums that are Audio you can always pick an on board style with a similar drum pattern and copy the audio midi parts to it. Then you can use it as normal.