I edit midi files on my computer but when I play them on my PSR S900 they sound

[Albertini]

This is probably a very silly question but I cannot figure it out. I am creating music in my Yamaha PSR S900, I am not a great pianist and I make mistakes. Then I save my song as a midi (using an USB dongle) and fix the errors (I am using MusScore 2) save it and play it on my Keyboard but it sound very poor, no effects, for example I loose the "sustain" . Can somebody explain how do you work with midis?

[Pino]

This is just a simple answer for you guys out there starting with midi file or style editing

Think of your S900 as your car, then next day you drive a different car, not so easy to drive a new car for a few hours cos the switches are in a different place, the clock and radio is in a different place, they are all there but your brain needs to few seconds to find them.

If we import a style form a S970 to a S900 or a midi file, all the sounds and fx are there on the S900 but in a different place, so we have to tell the S900's brain where to find the sounds, fx etc.

Make a list of all the sounds on every track on your computer
Go into Song Creator, start on track 1, try to match the same sounds, volume, FX etc on your S900, listen and when happy, execute and save the midi file.

Or, Try a different midi editor like 'MidiWorks Ya.'

Pino

[Albertini]

First thanks for your answer.
Then I should understand there is no a simple way to work on the Keyboard save the song as a midi and add or fix part of it in an external editor and play it again on the keyboard without loosing the quality of the sound? Incredible I never thought that.
I was checking 'MidiWorks Ya.' it is a commercial software is there any free editor that can make the job? also to understand more about midis, what is the Midi file loosing when I go from the Keyboard to the external editor and back to the Keyboard ? Any link to tutorials to work Kayboard and external midi editor would be extremely appreciated.
And thanks again to share your knowledge

[Fred Smith]

Then I should understand there is no a simple way to work on the Keyboard save the song as a midi and add or fix part of it in an external editor and play it again on the keyboard without loosing the quality of the sound? Incredible I never thought that.

Why not edit it on the keyboard? That would retain the sound quality.

Cheers,
Fred

[Albertini]

Fred,

On that small screen edit is a nightmare for me. The thing is, I know how to write music and I can use that knowledge to cover my luck of coordination skills (jaja) . For example sometimes I have to repeat the same cycle of chords 4 or 5 times,putting my best effort is never enough, I always loose the battle with the metronome.

If I can use a midi editor I can write it without errors, giving me the structure in where I can add the rest of the instruments and complete the song on the keyboard

My goal is produce music, not to perform as a pianist, sadly I don't have the skills but I can create music, anyway I love music that is the reason

[panos]

Take a look at the mixMaster program Albertini.
You can correct your midi file on your pc and play it back on your keyboard and don't loose the keyboard's voices.
It was made for especially for Yamaha keyboards.
http://psrtutorial.com/MB/mixMaster.html
http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/software.htm

[DerekA]

Make sure that whatever program you are using to edit the midi file does *not* strip out SY*** messages when loading / saving.

The SY*** messages contain the instructions for setting up effects, voice parameters etc. Without them you'll get the correct voice selected, but it will sound rotten.

[Pino]

I would say that an External midi editor would be my first choice
But
I could easily work in SongCreator also

Depends what you want to do
You have a choice of easy record or step recording chords,
Go to SC and tab to CHORDS, input your chords, very easy to do.

Something like this -
Step record the chords to the verse  = eg 8 bars
Step record the chords to the chorus = eg 8 bars

Now you copy and paste
Verse bars   1 -  8.   Copy and past to bar 17 and 33
Chorus bars 9 - 16.  Copy and paste to bar 25
Click any ending to bar 41

Now you have a complete song structure together, the timing will be perfect and everything is still on the keyboard, not lost anything through midi transfer.

Depending on how organised you are that should not have taken more than 10 to15 minutes to put together, save the song,
Now you can start to sort your instruments out and build it up from there.
Build and save and listen, build and save and listen till it sounds right to you

Whatever method your going to us just remember that there is a learning curve and we all have to get through that, I find that the more I use something the easier it gets.

Good luck

Pino

[Normanfernandez]

Mix Master is a Great Software.

If you have any questions
Post it here.

If you need any extra assistance you can DM me and we could do a video chat.

For the start
MixMaster is a little tricky
But you'll learn how to use it.

In Simple Terms.
MixMaster is Step Edit.  But a lot better!!
Regards Norman!

[Normanfernandez]

I would say that an External midi editor would be my first choice
But
I could easily work in SongCreator also

Depends what you want to do
You have a choice of easy record or step recording chords,
Go to SC and tab to CHORDS, input your chords, very easy to do.

Something like this -
Step record the chords to the verse  = eg 8 bars
Step record the chords to the chorus = eg 8 bars

Now you copy and paste
Verse bars   1 -  8.   Copy and past to bar 17 and 33
Chorus bars 9 - 16.  Copy and paste to bar 25
Click any ending to bar 41

Now you have a complete song structure together, the timing will be perfect and everything is still on the keyboard, not lost anything through midi transfer.

Depending on how organised you are that should not have taken more than 10 to15 minutes to put together, save the song,
Now you can start to sort your instruments out and build it up from there.
Build and save and listen, build and save and listen till it sounds right to you

Whatever method your going to us just remember that there is a learning curve and we all have to get through that, I find that the more I use something the easier it gets.

Good luck

Pino

I've never used Step Record
How does it work?

Also copy and paste.

What I usually do is.
Copy the Selection Part. 
Change the Values (bars)
Then past the original Copy.

[Albertini]

I will Norman I will, now I am reading the manual , I tried to open a file but the program responded with "Please select a MidiDevice" then I will read the manual first and after that I will start working on it.

Your name sound spanish Norman, hablas espanol?