As part of product care, Yamaha now offers an extensive software for download starting from 16.04.2025 for all registered Genos2 owners.
This is the Genos2 Premium Pack Entertainer 2025 with 20 new styles in top-of-the-art factory quality, 4 multipad benches and additional 40 - partly title-related registration benches.
The included ppi file can be installed directly on the keyboard via the USB memory drive without YEM.
Simply log in to https://hub.europe.yamaha.com/account?tab=products with your account, go to "My Products" /Genos2 in the left section and select "Exclusive Downloads". You can find the Entertainer 2025 pack to download there.
Happy Easter,
Stijn
Demo from Yamaha Global
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IarPXN3quE
You can quick download from here: https://mega.nz/file/iFE0VarZ#Z5Y_k9XaHUW1UDHKUMf2O_u3PM_6WqDpccol6IdthVY
I've just got an email from Yamaha Music Europe with the news about this pack and how to download it.
Hi
What a load of dated rubbish, all German Schlager "two pints of lager and a packet of crisps please and a slap around the face wearing lederhosen"!!!
The only good thing that I can think of is trawling through the styles to hear if there are any usable sounds.
Why can't Yamaha give us something worthwhile like expanding the DX sounds for the new generator they put In.
Schlager music was my dad's music and I am 74.
More 60/70/80's stuff please.
Yamaha!!!, "cut out boring EDM plastic wind up toy music of the one button flashing light brigade with It's teletubby and pepper piggy followers"! ;D
I did not know that Van Halen's Jump was Schlager music!!!Lol.
It's not all German - the last one on the demo is clearly meant to be "sweet caroline".
Anyway I've had the Genos1 version of this for ages, and I actually quite like a lot of it ....!
I thought this package was cool, very useful for me
This pack also work on all Yamaha models (ppf included).
You can also use StyleExtractor to extract this pack styles.
But only problems in Revo!Drums and Ambi!Drums. Just remap it manually or use RD Cleaner.
I registered my SX920 keyboard but you need a Genos 2 Serial Number to download this file.
If anyone with a G2 keyboard gets this pack ... can you share the PPI file? (which contains the Styles.)
I am sure these styles can be edited to work in other keyboards with a bit of tweaking.
Cheers
Drake
Quote from: DrakeM on Apr 16, 2025, 02:15 PMI registered my SX920 keyboard but you need a Genos 2 Serial Number to download this file.
If anyone with a G2 keyboard gets this pack ... can you share the PPI file? (which contains the Styles.)
I am sure these styles can be edited to work in other keyboards with a bit of tweaking.
Cheers
Drake
Send me a message and I can send it to you tomorrow.
Quote from: Snicker740 on Apr 16, 2025, 04:13 AMYou can quick download from here: https://mega.nz/file/iFE0VarZ#Z5Y_k9XaHUW1UDHKUMf2O_u3PM_6WqDpccol6IdthVY
QuoteWhat a load of dated rubbish, all German Schlager ...
This expansion pack is obviously intended for Schlager fans. Not everyone likes this kind of music. I don't like it either. But I think it's okay that others like it. Live and let live.
Kurt
Quote from: KurtAgain on Apr 16, 2025, 04:59 PMQuoteWhat a load of dated rubbish, all German Schlager ...
This expansion pack is obviously intended for Schlager fans. Not everyone likes this kind of music. I don't like it either. But I think it's okay that others like it. Live and let live.
Kurt
The Keyboard Arranger market in Germany is incredibly large. What I find a pity is that Yamaha does not make packs with music of this time and is more innovative. It is always the same old stuff that has been around for years and little modern is added.
Quote from: DGX KEYBOARD on Apr 16, 2025, 10:58 AMThis pack also work on all Yamaha models (ppf included).
You can also use StyleExtractor to extract this pack styles.
But only problems in Revo!Drums and Ambi!Drums. Just remap it manually or use RD Cleaner.
Where can i find the Style extractor ? and how does it works ? ( i dont want to load only styles with Yem on my G2)
https://youtu.be/fKtXrQ1Ar_4?si=WI9A_JbqLS_q6Wio
Quote from: JohnS (Ugawoga) on Apr 16, 2025, 06:23 AMHi
"..... "two pints of lager and a packet of crisps please and a slap around the face wearing lederhosen"!!!
Why can't Yamaha give us something worthwhile like expanding the DX sounds for the new generator they put In.
Schlager music was my dad's music and I am 74.
More 60/70/80's stuff please.
Yamaha!!!, "cut out boring EDM plastic wind up toy music of the one button flashing light brigade with It's teletubby and pepper piggy followers"! ;D
Germany - Pints?
Monty Python did a short sketch without the lederhosen entitled: "
The Fish Slapping Dance" which clearly alludes to traditional dancing in Germany. A YouTube link is not included here as it might be seen as offensive today with the Nazi insignia.
Must agree with your comments about both Schlager and Yamaha's poor attempts at EDM. I doubt the EDM beats have been changed in 20 years. It's either lazy by Yamaha or there is clearly a market.
As the late broadcaster and journalist Alan Whicker once said in one of his 'Whickers World' programmes:
" Nostalgia is not what it used to be".
Hi
You say the "The Keyboard Arranger market in Germany is incredibly large".
Would it be possible to point me in the direction of stats and demographics that shows Yamaha"s market in various countries? If market share is what is driving Yamaha innovation it would explain so much. I don't blame Yamaha if this is customer-driven.
DaPaleRider is correct, Germany is a huge market for them. In terms of %, the highest. So it makes sense that they make Schlager packs (which don't do much for me either, but the Yodeling is always interesting). Likewise, there is a huge number of arranger players in the Middle East, hence why so many great oriental/ME packs (and the very existence of the PSR-A series)
Mark
Thanks for the confirmation that in percentage terms, Germany is the largest market for Yamaha and the Middle East is a significant market. The bigger and more specific question is: " Who is buying "arranger" keyboards?" To which the obvious answer is those who can afford it! The demographic would be interesting - over 40s;over 50s; over 60s and so on. Brand loyalty seems to be huge with Yamaha. How does it compare with other brands?
Here some testing demo on my channel :)
Quote from: valimaties on Apr 16, 2025, 05:04 AMI've just got an email from Yamaha Music Europe with the news about this pack and how to download it.
Quote from: DaPaleRider on Apr 16, 2025, 02:22 PMQuote from: DrakeM on Apr 16, 2025, 02:15 PMI registered my SX920 keyboard but you need a Genos 2 Serial Number to download this file.
If anyone with a G2 keyboard gets this pack ... can you share the PPI file? (which contains the Styles.)
I am sure these styles can be edited to work in other keyboards with a bit of tweaking.
Cheers
Drake
Send me a message and I can send it to you tomorrow.
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The styles is not working properly for sx900.Please convert the styles of genos2 entertainer 2025 for sx900.
What am I doing wrong?
I have downloaded the Entertainer pack 2025, extracted the files, then copied the ppi file to a usb, put it in the genos2 and then get nothing under USB1 on the Genos. I read this should work direct on the Genos!!, or am I wrong.
If I copy the WHOLE Entertainer file to a usb and put it into the Genos under USB1 it shows Entertainer pack 2025 but then nothing more. Tapping on it produces nothing.
It has me beat,any help.Thanks
Quote from: Mike McNamara on Apr 18, 2025, 12:26 PMWhat am I doing wrong?
I have downloaded the Entertainer pack 2025, extracted the files, then copied the ppi file to a usb, put it in the genos2 and then get nothing under USB1 on the Genos. I read this should work direct on the Genos!!, or am I wrong.
If I copy the WHOLE Entertainer file to a usb and put it into the Genos under USB1 it shows Entertainer pack 2025 but then nothing more. Tapping on it produces nothing.
It has me beat,any help.Thanks
Here are just the styles. You will need to rework them a bit in your Genos keyboard.
https://app.box.com/s/3ni6994lcvuj4jd5g4un0343u75fjrp3
I have not yet reworked all of them yet but they will work in my SX920 when I am done.
Cheers
Drake
Hi.
Many thanks - the download works. I have no idea how what you did was different to what I did, but thanks again.
Regards
Mike
Quote from: Mike McNamara on Apr 19, 2025, 03:39 AMHi.
Many thanks - the download works. I have no idea how what you did was different to what I did, but thanks again.
Regards
Mike
Hello Mike,
Here is a video which shows you how to extract STYLES from a PPI file.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKtXrQ1Ar_4
Here is the link to get the PROGRAM
https://app.box.com/s/lpt4nzrwg9hthn021y2da6qpfqh5ahl2
Yamaha seems to currently offer SX920 and Genos2 packs that this program allows anyone to obtain the styles and use in their keyboard, if they want to spend time reworking them a bit.
Drake
Quote from: Amwilburn on Apr 17, 2025, 12:43 PM..... Germany is a huge market for them. In terms of %, the highest.....
Hi there
In trying to answer my own questions I found this:
Global Electronic Keyboards Market 2024 by Manufacturers, Regions, Type and Application, Forecast to 2030https://www.globalinforesearch.com/reports/1662590/electronic-keyboards"Regionally, the report analyzes the Electronic Keyboards markets in key regions. North America [Which includes Canada and Mexico] and Europe [which includes Germany, France, United Kingdom, Russia, Italy, and Rest of Europe] are experiencing steady growth, driven by government initiatives and increasing consumer awareness. Asia-Pacific, particularly China, leads the global Electronic Keyboards market, with robust domestic demand, supportive policies, and a strong manufacturing base..." .....
[Middle East & Africa (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, South Africa, and Rest of Middle East & Africa]
"The report involves analyzing the market at a macro level:
Market Sizing and Segmentation: Report collect data on the overall market size, including the sales quantity (K Units), revenue generated, and market share of different by Type (e.g., 61-key Keyboard, 76-key Keyboard)."
Unfortunately for me the Single User License for the full report costs $3,480.00.
My need to know does not extend that far!
Ps, why not update the Latin Pack? I think Latin Pack currently use old Tyros4 voices and drum kit.
Especially should have brand new percussion especially for cuban.
Hello everybody!
I bought a Genos2 just a couple of months ago (I'm from Italy) and, when I switched it on for the first time, I was surprised that so many styles were built in schlager's style. In my opinion, Yamaha should consider that, undoubtedly, either a customer lives in Italy, or in Japan, or in Indonesia or everywhere else, it's not written in the stars that he likes their schlager styles. This is true even if their major market is supposed to be Germany.
I'm just talking about the built-in styles, as the expansion packs can be downloaded, tested and, eventually erased. Related to the expansion packs, many years ago, in 2011, I purchased a Clavinova CVP505, which I still own, and had access to an expansion pack containing a huge bank of styles related to many italian songs. Now it seems to be only schlager, schlager, schlager, balkan, middle east and far east. I'd like to remember to Yamaha programmers that Western Music, and the latin one as well, are still the most played in the world. Even in Germany, Italy, Indonesia and Japan. So, please, less schlagers and more stuff useful to everyone. Thanks in advance....
Dear Stonefish1959,
I'm an Italian too, and besides American, English and French songs, I love the most to play Italian songs, obviously.
To do that, I make Song/Styles, to get the nearest result I can to the original song.
So far I made nearly 600 Song/Styles, the majority being Italian songs. And to achieve that I just used Genos Styles (550 Genos1 + Genos2, that I converted to Genos1 = 800 Styles). This is an enormous source to make Song/Styles to fit any song of any genre, of any country.
It is just a matter of EXPLORING the Preset Styles, checking one after the other, to find the one that seems to be the nearest to the song you are interested to play. Frankly, doing this kind of search, sometimes I chosed also Schlager styles. Then you need to do some work to adjust the original Style to your requirements, of course.
The problem you mentioned would have been real a few decades ago, with old arrangers having a very small choice of Styles. Nowadays with Genos 2 having 800 Styles (!!!) we have just the "imbarazzo della scelta" (translation: spoiled for choice).
Hope this help. Ciao
Angelo
Dear Angelo
It's wonderful that you are able and have the time to tweak existing styles and create something special - all credit to you sir. But I find this statement to be quite incredible: "This is an enormous source to make Song/Styles to fit any song of any genre, of any country." [My emphasis]. Looking at the keyboards you have owned, I have no doubt that you have the skills and experience to do this. However, when we talk about genres, Yamaha offer very very little for lovers of Ska or Reggae - just to give two of many examples. Reggae used to be a firm favourite in hotels used by surfers where I used to live and play.
For what it's worth, I'm not anti-Schlager music. On the contrary, having been to a German beer festival many years ago it was fantastic - the crowds, the atmosphere, the barmaids, the beer! And, when doing a music and art lecture about The Beatles in a Chinese art gallery just a few years ago, (where one of my German friends was present), I played a medley of beer-drinking songs to introduce the variety of music that bands from Liverpool were exposed to in Hamburg in the early days. For the regggae feel of Obla-Di-Obla-Da by The Beatles I had to use midi to make my point.
But to my taste, the Entertainer styles are much of a muchness. I believe it would take a considerable amount of work to convert these styles to sound anything like Ska or Reggae- the basslines would require excessive intervention for starters.
Quote from: Sam Wacker on Apr 25, 2025, 05:41 PMBut to my taste, the Entertainer styles are much of a muchness. I believe it would take a considerable amount of work to convert these styles to sound anything like Ska or Reggae- the basslines would require excessive intervention for starters.
You ought to learn to move the parts of the styles around from one style to another using COPY and PASTE.
My PSR-SX920 keyboard has 575 preset styles (30 of them are COUNTRY) and then I added 261 of the Genos 2 styles (22 of them are COUNTRY) to it. That is 836 total (52 different COUNTRY styles total). Yet, I have created more than 350 different custom COUNRTY song styles from these styles. If I can use these styles to make all these COUNTRY styles, you could do the same for Reggae music.
Here is the song KOKOMO (I think this one might be Reggae)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7TL8qL2kLY
I recently reworked and added 20 Latin Romantic styles and this week I reworked the 19 NEW Entertainer 2025 style set.
There really are too many styles available now, You can put together any kind of style you want with what is available to SX920, Genos and GENOS 2 keyboard users.
I have posted videos of about 90% the custom styles I have put together as examples of what can be done with these keyboards. Heck, I have even posted hundreds of reworked styles you can use in just about any Yamaha keyboard.
Cheers
Drake
Thank you for your comments and your interest. You make valid points about the vast range of styles available. And I have done the copy and paste in the past as you have suggested here.
The Beach Boys, minus genius Brian Wilson, had a massive hit with
Kokomo but it's more pop than reggae. More Florida Keys than Kingston Town.
Reggae is alive and well, and if you like 'cultural fusion music' as I do, there is also "Reggaeton" - a Puerto Rican development from Reggae and Hip Hop. Genos 2 has a style for "Despacito" in the Dance category that can be used as an attempt at the Reggaeton genre alongside many of the Latin styles but I do think these need an update too.
The Genos 2 onboard Reggae styles are good but half a dozen styles to represent a significant music genre? I guess it's market share all over again. It's certainly been my experience that reluctant dancers can be coaxed to the dancefloor with a bit of Reggae - it's usually UB40's cover of a Neil Diamond classic
Red Red Wine followed by Bob Marley's
One Love.
The first YouTube (YT) video shows Conkarah & Rosie Delmar do a Reggae cover of Adele's song
Hello. I think it works really well. Listen to the basic drum track that uses the distinctive rim-shots on the snare that are common in the Reggae genre but maybe not so common in country music.
Please be aware that the producers turn the volume up when their logo is briefly on the screen at the start.In the second YT video,
Leigh Wilbraham takes the audio from this song and mixes it for live performance with Genos 2
Reef Reggae style.
Off topic: Wow, I ❤️ the reggae version of this song!
Ooh, that *is* a nice cover!
Mark
I made a style to do the Electric Boogie that is an oldie. I don't use it anymore since I don't play bars anymore.
https://app.box.com/s/36tstuful0fv7wyk61b72gqhpa8a1zx8
I did make a 16 song set of traditional Hawaiian songs for gigging. There is only one Hawaiian style to start with. There is a Hawaiian Waltz style but there are no waltz songs in traditional Hawaiian music. I believe Yamaha has even quit putting that style on their keyboards as it is useless.
I don't run into need for reggae beats very often. I did need a reggae style for the song "Chicken Fried" by the Zach Brown Band. I have to use a registration to do that song. The reggae beat is at a different tempo than the rest of the country part of the song, but is works perfect.
I can find a close enough drummer beats for most all my songs in the Yamaha style collect I have. The bass play pattern is also there somewhere among the Yamaha styles too. I have recorded a few bass patterns into styles that I have put together. Only to later find the pattern in a Yamaha style.
The more you work at making your own styles the easier it is to find or create the missing parts you absolutely need to make the style perfect for your needs.
Drake
Quote from: Sam Wacker on Apr 26, 2025, 02:50 PMThank you for your comments and your interest. You make valid points about the vast range of styles available. And I have done the copy and paste in the past as you have suggested here.
The Beach Boys, minus genius Brian Wilson, had a massive hit with Kokomo but it's more pop than reggae. More Florida Keys than Kingston Town.
Reggae is alive and well, and if you like 'cultural fusion music' as I do, there is also "Reggaeton" - a Puerto Rican development from Reggae and Hip Hop. Genos 2 has a style for "Despacito" in the Dance category that can be used as an attempt at the Reggaeton genre alongside many of the Latin styles but I do think these need an update too.
The Genos 2 onboard Reggae styles are good but half a dozen styles to represent a significant music genre? I guess it's market share all over again. It's certainly been my experience that reluctant dancers can be coaxed to the dancefloor with a bit of Reggae - it's usually UB40's cover of a Neil Diamond classic Red Red Wine followed by Bob Marley's One Love.
The first YouTube (YT) video shows Conkarah & Rosie Delmar do a Reggae cover of Adele's song Hello. I think it works really well. Listen to the basic drum track that uses the distinctive rim-shots on the snare that are common in the Reggae genre but maybe not so common in country music. Please be aware that the producers turn the volume up when their logo is briefly on the screen at the start.
As a UK teenager in the late 60s and 70s, my family enjoyed cheap LPs of reggae versions of almost every successful song, usually released several months after the original version had topped the charts. They were a real musical pleasure, and often showed great inventiveness and musicality.
Quote from: Chalky on Apr 28, 2025, 10:28 AM.... As a UK teenager in the late 60s and 70s, my family enjoyed cheap LPs of reggae versions of almost every successful song, usually released several months after the original version had topped the charts. They were a real musical pleasure, and often showed great inventiveness and musicality.
I'm sure I remember them too, alongside the covers of popular chart hits that were sold by Woolworth's at a fraction of the cost of a 45 single. And let's not forget the phenomenon of "Northern Soul" where more boys would be dancing to the music than girls.
Dear MadrasGiaguari,
probably it would take much less time if I replied to you in Italian but, as it seems that here english is the official common language, it wouldn't be polite at all. So ok, let me try to explain in english! Of course I'm aware that each Genos factory style may be used to perform a variety of different songs. In the same way I know I can edit a style to fit a song... but it requires an amount of time available that, unfortunately, I can't have. My "complaint" was, in substance, only about the disbalance between the "useful" styles to be edited and the useless ones (for me, of course!). On the other hand, I would be curious to find out how many Genos users in the world prefer a preset schlager style (and I have to add that they sound all, at least to me, so similar) to a different one more usable. Furthermore, I downloaded from Yamaha website an expansion pack called Entertainer 2016 and, exploring those styles, it's difficult to find a substancial difference between them and the new ones. In my personal opinion, anyway, the older ones are much better... So, thanks to Yamaha for providing this expansion pack for free, but it's not useful... for me, at least. Have a nice evening! ;)
Quote from: DrakeM on Apr 27, 2025, 04:21 PM..... I did make a 16 song set of traditional Hawaiian songs for gigging. There is only one Hawaiian style to start with. There is a Hawaiian Waltz style but there are no waltz songs in traditional Hawaiian music. I believe Yamaha has even quit putting that style on their keyboards as it is useless.
Indeed. I have to agree. First time around I got married in Hawaii, loved the music and everything about the islands and people.
Even though the Hawaiian styles were not brilliant as you say - at least on the Tyros 2 - other strumming styles could be used for this song. A great rendition of Judy Garland with 1.4 billion views on YouTube! A classic of a classic by the late Israel "IZ" Kamakawiwoʻole.
Quote from: valimaties on Apr 27, 2025, 10:45 AMOff topic: Wow, I ❤️ the reggae version of this song!
Glad you liked the reggae version. You will find many versions of Adele's songs on YT that have had the Reggae treatment. Some work and some don't. You be the judge.
Music is such an emotional activity that I don't think it is
off topic to discuss something related that is not strictly in the subject heading for the post. Otherwise why bother with a Forum of individuals? All the technical stuff could possibly be answered by AI in the near future but it wouldn't be the same for me. It's the human touch that makes this Forum exceptional - even if we don't always agree.
We are talking here about a "new"
Entertainer Pack – it's strengths and weaknesses. In doing that, posters have given opinions of where Yamaha could do better and how to overcome any perceived limitations.
As an aside and definitely off topic...Yesterday,
Liverpool FC the club I have supported since I was 8 years old, won the English Premier League title. Five years ago Covid stopped the celebrations when Liverpool also won that title. The fans, and players and staff singing and dancing to
One Kiss by Dua Lupa, and the ummistakable
You'll Never Walk Alone [originally from the musical 'Carousel'] brought many a tear to my eye I can tell you.
Quote from: Amwilburn on Apr 27, 2025, 04:17 PMOoh, that *is* a nice cover! ...
Completely off topic, I hope you like this...
Vanny Vabiola is an amazing Indonesian singer doing a straight cover version of
Unchained Melody .
Yamaha has produced a range of styles that could be used for this song I'm pleased to say.
Completely captivated by her voice. The effortless way she gets those high notes and controls her breathing is sensational. Apparently, she won a national talent competition as an 8-year-old. I have no doubt her vocal coach taught her how to use this beautiful voice.
There is just a faint hint of her native tongue(s) [what linguists call 'interference'] in the word "river".