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Yamaha Genos Keyboards => Yamaha Genos 1 => Topic started by: DavidGall on Jul 10, 2023, 12:49 PM

Title: Saving styles, registrations, etc
Post by: DavidGall on Jul 10, 2023, 12:49 PM
Hi everyone, it's been a while since we've had the genos keyboard out and was looking for some professional help as to backing everything we have done onto a usb stick, so was looking for some help, rather than being paranoid about losing stuff!!
Also, can anyone suggest a style for the song, Let's Dance by Chris Montez, using the long intro, please?
Thanks, in advance
Title: Re: Saving styles, registrations, etc
Post by: Divemaster on Jul 10, 2023, 02:18 PM
I don't have a Genos, I have an SX700, but back EVERYTHING up, not just to USB for your day to day playing or performing but also to an external hard drive.
That way you always have a backup to go to which is independant from your pc.
Computer crashes can and do happen.
Title: Re: Saving styles, registrations, etc
Post by: travlin-easy on Jul 10, 2023, 04:01 PM
I back up everything on my USB drive and also my PC. Can't have too many backups, especially when you are an onstage performer and make your living using your arranger keyboard.

As for a style for Let's Dance, I'll have to dig in my style archives, but I'm sure Roger will have something on hand for this one.

Good Luck,

Gary 8)
Title: Re: Saving styles, registrations, etc
Post by: DavidGall on Jul 10, 2023, 04:38 PM
Thanks for your help
Title: Re: Saving styles, registrations, etc
Post by: DavidGall on Jul 10, 2023, 04:40 PM
Thanks all, just wanted a quick recap, think I know, but have been caught out before, so just an idiot guide to help would be appreciated!🙏😀
Title: Re: Saving styles, registrations, etc
Post by: Stijn on Jul 11, 2023, 05:04 AM
For backups I prefer to use a computer connected to the Genos set in USB Storage mode.
(connect Genos with Printer cable to PC/Laptop, start Genos holding down the Playlist button)

The PC sees Genos as an external drive and the windows explorer sees all folders and all files on the Genos USER.
And.... it's a lot faster!!!

Alternatively, you could use the Yamaha "MusicSoft Downloader" program (MSD) for backups (only available for Windows computers).
This allows you to see/access all files in the User drive from the PC and copy data regardless of the file type.
However, the MSD is more intended/suitable for smaller files, since the file transfer takes place here via the USB-MIDI protocol.
It's slow compared to the USB Storage mode.

Note: don't backup the folder Expansion, this is handled by YEM only.

Style suggestion for Let's Dance: 60sVintage, 70sDisco1, 60sRock&Roll, CrocoTwist
See this download for some Styles: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/mw9nsx7gipt3i30ca5nho/h?rlkey=r6vbb3t18j84jt9ybzlqzzd8q&dl=0

Stijn
Title: Re: Saving styles, registrations, etc
Post by: MadrasGiaguari on Jul 12, 2023, 04:09 AM
Dear friends,

for saving the work I do in my Genos, I periodically:

1. Copy on a pen-drive all styles, registrations, voices, songs. Then I copy from the pen-drive to my computer (Mac), and the copied files also automatically go on Google Drive. The "Copy" method is very convenient, as one may recall single files, when needed.

2. Do a full Backup on a pen-drive, and then copy the Backup file to the computer, for extra safety.

For both method I name the folder with the date, which helps in case you need to search previous version of saving a style or voice, ecc.

Ciao

Angelo
Title: Re: Saving styles, registrations, etc
Post by: DavidGall on Jul 12, 2023, 05:50 PM
Thanks to all for your advice!
Title: Re: Saving styles, registrations, etc
Post by: richkeys on Jul 13, 2023, 12:26 PM
My backup method is very close to what Angelo describes.

Since we are on the topic of backups, I have a question about the backup file (.BUP) created from the Utility menu. Is that file only used to restore the User data all at once? I am assuming individual styles, registrations and .VCE's cannot be extracted individually from this .BUP file if that need ever arises, and therefore must be saved individually to USB?

Rich