Yamaha Expansion Explorer App

[Bluebear]

Hi all, hoping someone may be able to assist me with this query. I'm just starting to find my way around this new app & so far it looks pretty good. But having selected a few styles/voices that I wanted to install on my G2 and connected the USB cable, the G2 screen informs me that installing these will overwrite all existing expansion folder content. Is that correct or am I doing something wrong? Many thanks Ash

[overover]

Hi @Bluebear,

Yamaha's relatively new "Expansion Explorer" app (available for Windows, Mac, iOS and Android) is unfortunately not compatible with the "Yamaha Expansion Manager" (YEM) program.

Yamaha clearly warns that all contents previously installed with the Expansion Manager (YEM) will be removed when installing new content from Expansion Explorer:

Cautions
Contents already installed by Yamaha Expansion Manager into the Expansion area of your keyboard, including pre-installed content in PSR-SX920 and 720, will be removed when installing new content from Yamaha EXPANSION EXPLORER.

About pre-installed content in PSR-SX920 and 720, you will be able to reinstall them through the EXPANSION EXPLORER app, if desired.

Learn more here : https://manual.yamaha.com/mi/app/expansion_explorer/


In addition, the Expansion Explorer can only manage Yamaha packs. In order to manage self-created packs or third-party packs or to create/edit packs yourself, the Expansion Manager (YEM), available for Windows and Mac, must be used.

By the way, even when using the Expansion Manager (YEM), a normal installation (.ppi or .cpi Pack Install file) via USB stick will delete all previous expansion contents on the instrument. To add expansion contents, you must either install the pack via WiFi or use the Quick Pack Installation method (.pqi or .cqi Pack Install file), which is only possible with Quick Pack Install compatible instruments (e.g. Genos1/2, PSR-SX).

Until Yamaha makes the Expansion Explorer and the Expansion Manager fully compatible with each other, I don't think using the Expansion Explorer to manage expansion content makes sense. The only thing I use from the Expansion Explorer (now and then) is the new function of analyzing Audio files to find a (more or less) suitable Style for playing the song in question.


Hope this helps!

Best regards,
Chris

[Genos 2]

hi all just to let you kno that the tech guye's are looking into this so they both work

[Ronbo]

I completely agree with Chris on this.

I have tried Expansion Explorer only to find out that indeed, all YEM contents are lost.

I ask myself "do I need this aggravation?" Of course the answer is NO!

I reinstalled all the YEM stuff successfully, thank goodness, and Ive decided NOT to use Expansion Explorer again until Yamaha makes things right.

Hopefully that will be soon.

regards

Ron j

[Bluebear]

Many thanks for all the info, Chris & Genos2. Seems somewhat odd that the two can't talk to each other but hopeful this might be addressed before too long. I had overlooked the fact that the YEM can load non-brand and user packs, but it's all a big learning curve. Most importantly one year on & I'm still finding something new every time I'm playing my G2 & loving every minute..!!!!

[overover]

@Bluebear
My pleasure, Ash! Thanks for your kind feedback.


Best regards,
Chris

[Michael Trigoboff]

Does this new app work faster when connected via USB or Wi-Fi?

[Michael Trigoboff]

I just looked at the Areas Of Interest list in this app.

It includes Palestine, but it does not include Israel. It includes Iran twice.

I am hoping this is not some sort of political statement.

[Ronbo]

Does this new app work faster when connected via USB or Wi-Fi?

Hello Micheal

I used the wifi setup. I must say that it is quick. Probably as fast or faster than USB.

Trouble is it wipes out what you already have stored in your YEM.

That's a problem

regards

Ron j

[ticktock]

I've downloaded the Expansion Explorer app in my Windows PC and connected to my SX920. I have a folder called "keyboard" in my PC where I store several programs used for keyboard.
While playing with the app, I didn't open the YEM. When I exited the app, a message on PC screen telling me that the files in folder "keyboard" have been corrupted and to be deleted.
At the end, I lost all programs in that folder.
Just be careful with this app. Ted