SX720 Is there a way to empty all the style parts?

[aprilla]

I've got a Registration that empties the registrations, but this still leaves content in the style area. Is there a way to also empty the style area? (Registrations are pretty new to me)

I know I can turn off ACMP so buttons in this area don't react, but can I empty them? Ideally I'd like to be able to empty everything, at will.

Thanks

[Fred Smith]

Not that I know of. I've never seen an empty style area. There's always a style loaded.

Cheers,
Fred

[bpsafran]

At least on Genos2 there is a screen menu for registrations that has an option called Registration Edit.  If you choose that, it allows you to select specific registration buttons (one or more) and delete them.  After you do that, the buttons are not lit and are presumably free of any content.  I am not sure if that feature is there on the other models.

[aprilla]

Not that I know of. I've never seen an empty style area. There's always a style loaded.

Cheers,
Fred

Thanks Fred, I was wrestling with this the past couple of days and finally thought to ask for help. Now I know.

[aprilla]

At least on Genos2 there is a screen menu for registrations that has an option called Registration Edit.  If you choose that, it allows you to select specific registration buttons (one or more) and delete them.  After you do that, the buttons are not lit and are presumably free of any content.  I am not sure if that feature is there on the other models.

Yes, I've been able to empty the Registrations but not the Style area. So I was wondering if I could do the same with the Styles area, empty that. Seems not.

[valimaties]

Create a style from scratch (empty style), call it "Empty style" or "No Style"... save it on User. Create a registration with that style, then save the registration bank with that style, assuming you select only the "Style" checkbox in the saving screen. Delete the style from User. Use this registration bank when you need a "no-style" registrations.
This will not empty all registrations, because you will have a single registration but without anything.
It might works (as a workaround to "no style" selected by the registration).
Try it and tell us if it works.

Regards,
Vali

[aprilla]

Create a style from scratch (empty style), call it "Empty style" or "No Style"... save it on User. Create a registration with that style, then save the registration bank with that style, assuming you select only the "Style" checkbox in the saving screen. Delete the style from User. Use this registration bank when you need a "no-style" registrations.
This will not empty all registrations, because you will have a single registration but without anything.
It might works (as a workaround to "no style" selected by the registration).
Try it and tell us if it works.

Regards,
Vali

Oh wow, yes... I will try that and report the result.
Thank you Vali.

[aprilla]

That's good Vali, even without using a registration for it though it might be useful in a registration at some stage.

I just went into Style Creator and set up a new style, saved it as _EMPTY STYLE. When this style is selected it shows only the Main A variation light on (I tried to get it to use Break but it reverts to Main A, not an issue). If Main A button is pressed nothing happens, even if ACMP is on. The One Touch lights are all off.

Note - _EMPTY STYLE will still play if you start it, you can see the beats 1-2-3-4- in the display, but with no sound.

This is so much better than turning off ACMP and still risking touching something in the Style area, and maybe changing things when I don't want that to happen. I will probably try making a Registration with this style loaded and empty registration banks, to turn everything off in one swoop, but for now I'm content.

It suits me nicely, thank you 👍

[fj]

Out of curiosity, why did you want to achieve this state?   The reason I ask is that I own an SX700 which occasionally I play with friends in a band-like manner. I am looking for the best way to make my keyboard act more like a stage keyboard than an arranger when I do.  I have never found a method that was foolproof or that I like. I inevitably in the middle of a song hit something out of habit which will turn on a style and ruin our song. I am thinking that perhaps this might be why you are looking to blank everything and would like to compare notes on how this works for you.

fj

[aprilla]

Out of curiosity, why did you want to achieve this state?  The reason I ask is that I own an SX700 which occasionally I play with friends in a band-like manner. I am looking for the best way to make my keyboard act more like a stage keyboard than an arranger when I do.  I have never found a method that was foolproof or that I like. I inevitably in the middle of a song hit something out of habit which will turn on a style and ruin our song. I am thinking that perhaps this might be why you are looking to blank everything and would like to compare notes on how this works for you.

fj

More or less the same reason as you, so I don't accidently set off something in the style area. I did it often enough to wonder if I could turn it all off, and that started the quest. I often play as piano, sometimes split, and figured turning off the entire style area could set that up quickly and easily if it could be done, so eliminate the risk of touching something in the style area accidently which could change my settings.

I've just returned to playing (it's a retirement hobby now) and I don't have much set up in registrations or such yet, which would probably do similar individually, but this is a great overall solution. Easy and quick to do, I'm really pleased with it. My keyboarding is 1/4 piano, 1/4 keyboard, 1/4 experimenting and the last 1/4 collecting and playing with files. Arrangers are perfect for all of that, it's a great hobby.

And as it's just a blank style there might be ways it can be played with... more experimenting to do.

[Fred Smith]

Out of curiosity, why did you want to achieve this state?   The reason I ask is that I own an SX700 which occasionally I play with friends in a band-like manner. I am looking for the best way to make my keyboard act more like a stage keyboard than an arranger when I do.  I have never found a method that was foolproof or that I like. I inevitably in the middle of a song hit something out of habit which will turn on a style and ruin our song. I am thinking that perhaps this might be why you are looking to blank everything and would like to compare notes on how this works for you.

I've found that registrations are the best solution to avoiding the accidental button push.

When playing, I like to keep my hands on the keys so I don't lose track of where I am. I have set up all my registrations so I almost never have to press any buttons (FadeOut being the one that still requires a button press). I can change the tempo, transposition, style parts, stop/start all with registrations. Each song I play has its own registration file with a sequence which I advance with a pedal. My performance is much better when I can keep my hands on the keys, and registrations allow me to do so.

Cheers,
Fred

[aprilla]

@Fred Smith

Can I pick your brain, your knowledge of registrations?

I'm just setting up to use registrations. I've watched your tutorials and think I have a fair understanding of them, if not their extent yet. So that's OK.

I plan to set up to use a registration bank for each song. I use MobileSheets and will connect the sheet or the book to the registration(s). That's fine.

But I can't decide the best way to store my files, the files related to my pieces/registrations.

To put each type of file into their Type folder. So styles into Styles, multipads into Multipads, midi/mp3 into Songs etc and do this alphabetically in each maybe?

Or make each song/book a folder in Registrations and have the reg, style, multipad etc all in that folder so everything for a title is together. There might also be midi or audio files per title.

Registrations seem great, but the organising of files for them is causing me confusion. I keep changing my mind as which might be best, and perhaps there is something else that might work better long term.

I might be overthinking 

[Fred Smith]

Hi aprilla,

To me, file organization is a matter of personal choice. Any system is as good as any other.

First thing to remember is that the registrations don't care. They will find the file wherever it's stored.

I put each file into its type folder. Styles in the STYLES folder, text files in TEXT, etc. This is the way Yamaha hard drives are organized, and I just followed it. Within each type, I have subfolders A-Z. I find I can find the files I want this way. I also find it easy to create a Gig folder, as I can copy the needed registrations from the main REGIST folder.

Organizing by song folders has the advantage that you can archive/copy all the files needed for a song if you want to, for example, send them to a friend.

Pick a system and stick to it. There's not enough difference to worry too much about it.

Cheers,
Fred

[aprilla]

Pick a system and stick to it. There's not enough difference to worry too much about it.

Thanks Fred

I knew I was confusing my keyboard filing with my work system, but it's a hard habit to break. I'll follow the Yamaha system. I know if it worked for you it should work for me, if I do it right.