Yamaha Genos 2 vs Genos1

[mikf]

As an SX900 owner who might consider buying the G2 for its better piano, the OP's G2 criticism is just too minor to sway me.

Rich , It definitely should not sway you. The OP is entitled to his view and it's his money. If he is unhappy and can afford it, then writing it off is his prerogative.
If it was the view of a seasoned piano pro it should hold some weight with all of us, but I don't think that is the case.
Mike

[Oxford1035]

I think I'd politely tell the boss where to get off, unless he's footing the bill for the Genos 2, which I very much doubt.

Whilst I accept some people might not think they hear a difference, or can justify the cost of changing from Genos to Genos 2, there is no way in my opinion that anyone can say it sounds worse.The boss would be better of staying in the kitchen boiling eggs and leaving the guy to get on with entertaining the customers on what most regard as an excellent keyboard.

Russ

[mikf]

Maybe the OP just wants someone to confirm his views to justify the decision to sell.
Mike

[DrakeM]

Keep your G2 and just keep using the your G1 until late in 2025 when you tell your boss your G1 died. Tell your boss it is going to take a couple weeks to order yourself a new G2. Go rent a portable piano for those 2 weeks (or maybe you have a back up keyboard already to use such a case). You can then show up in 2 weeks time with your G2.

Using this idea saves you MONEY. You can then sell your G1 online.

PROBLEM SOLVED. But don't sell that G2 that is stupid. IMO

[hoangbr2014]

Having G2, but still gigging G1. I spend $250 on expansion sounds. If the price negotiation does not fit my needs, I will keep and try G2 for about a year and then sell it at any price after that.

It seems that many in here just play Genos for passion. I play for a living. It is very clear, that everybody, including customers, my boss, my girlfriend (singer), and even me, says Genos 1 sounds better than Genos 2.

[bpsafran]

Perhaps it is because you know the Genos1 much better
including sounds, reverbs and EQ and expect them to
be the same on Genos2?  (And perhaps it must be EQ'd
differently in your venue.) I suggest that you treat Genos2
as a new instrument with its own characteristics
and learn its strengths from the Yamaha masters
that programmed the 1600 registrations included
in the Genos2 Playlist, with no expansion sounds needed.  Wishing you all the best and eventual
enjoyment of the Genos2.

[Amwilburn]

If the G1 sounds better to you great! You can save money!

I play for a living too (technically, as do several others here on the board), and everyone I've shown (all my customers, coworkers, and even my wife) all agree G2 sounds much more *real*.

But as Safran just pointed out, a lot has to do with the speaker/eq/compresser/mixer setup. When I ran the G1 (its own unique sample, definitely improved over the T5 piano) and the G2 (same sample as CVP909/CLP785 but with no VRM) into the CVP909 speakers, the difference became much more obvious. Through the GNSMS01? very little difference in the CFX, but quite a noticeable difference with the U3 and the Character Grand.

I'm just saying what works for you works for you, not necessarily everyone else (and likewise, what works for me works for me, definitely won't work for everyone) but Safran is correct; your speaker/eq/mixer setup has a lot to do with it

We have 1 customer, who has been trying keyboards for 25 years now, and he always says (oh, when i try it at my restaurant, it just doesn't sound as good as my old Roland JV80 (from 1982) and he's probably correct.

I told him to bring his aging keyboard in, and through the GNSMS01 (I daisy chain everything into the same speaker set) and he was shocked at *how* much better a Genos or PA5x sounded over his Roland. I explained to him; it all depends on what you have everything optimized for.


Mark

[hoangbr2014]

If the G1 sounds better to you great! You can save money!

I play for a living too (technically, as do several others here on the board), and everyone I've shown (all my customers, coworkers, and even my wife) all agree G2 sounds much more *real*.

But as Safran just pointed out, a lot has to do with the speaker/eq/compresser/mixer setup. When I ran the G1 (its own unique sample, definitely improved over the T5 piano) and the G2 (same sample as CVP909/CLP785 but with no VRM) into the CVP909 speakers, the difference became much more obvious. Through the GNSMS01? very little difference in the CFX, but quite a noticeable difference with the U3 and the Character Grand.

I'm just saying what works for you works for you, not necessarily everyone else (and likewise, what works for me works for me, definitely won't work for everyone) but Safran is correct; your speaker/eq/mixer setup has a lot to do with it

We have 1 customer, who has been trying keyboards for 25 years now, and he always says (oh, when i try it at my restaurant, it just doesn't sound as good as my old Roland JV80 (from 1982) and he's probably correct.

I told him to bring his aging keyboard in, and through the GNSMS01 (I daisy chain everything into the same speaker set) and he was shocked at *how* much better a Genos or PA5x sounded over his Roland. I explained to him; it all depends on what you have everything optimized for.


Mark

Updated, Firmware 1.4 seems to fix some problems of Touch velocity, lack of low frequency and high frequency, and resonance. As upgraded firmware 1.4, seems to be good to my ears now, but I need to compare side by side again.