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Started by lilryu, February 20, 2024, 04:00:39 PM

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lilryu

Are there any warm/softer strings on the Genos2 ? I play a lot of ballad covers which has warmer/softer strings. I noticed that the string are a bit "harsh". Below is an example of strings that I'd like to imitate :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNRS2iV5K90

BogdanH

Quote from: lilryu on February 20, 2024, 04:00:39 PM
..I noticed that the string are a bit "harsh".
...
I quite agree on that. I think they (Seattle strings) might be good for certain classical or cinematic music, but for ballads and similar, they're just too.. yes, harsh.
That's why I usually decide for some synth strings when I need softer/mellow strings.

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KurtAgain

Or slightly reduce the brightness of the filter or the high frequencies in the Part EQ?

EileenL

I still like to use the ones in the Legacy folder.
Eileen

Ray

Allegro Strings, Legacy, are softer, and you can soften them further with the equaliser.

lilryu

How do I access the legacy folder?

overover

Quote from: lilryu on February 20, 2024, 09:43:31 PM
How do I access the legacy folder?

Hi lilryu,

To find and call up the "Legacy" folder, touch (Up) at the bottom right of the Voice Selection display (when Preset is selected), and then select page 2 (P2). This folder contains previous Yamaha keyboards' Voices (such as the Tyros series) for data compatibility with other models.


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soundphase

Download CMS symstrings 1 and 2 . They are very very good. I don't know if they will be adapted to your ballad context

EileenL

Some of the free Yamaha packs have nice strings in them also.
Eileen

andyg

And, where possible, layer your strings, balancing, panning and EQ-ing them as required. In my experience there are very few strings patches that 'cut it' on their own. My Roland Atelier AT900P organ has what are quite possibly the best strings of any keyboard instrument, but I will still layer them.

Seattle (previously 'Real') Strings were criticised from Day One. Accurate, yes, but played with very little vibrato and so rather harsh and emotionless. Studio and Concert Strings were better, but both have noise issues on higher notes. So, yes, it's off into Legacy and look for Allegro and 'Strings' (one of which must be the old 'Live Strings') and then mix them with Kino Strings.

And do consider taking something like a Legacy Violin or Cello, doing a little editing and adding that into the mix. If you get the vibrato right and then the balance, that extra vibrato can add a very nice extra bit of emotion to an ensemble. You can even then route that Violin or Cello through a DSP effect (Symphonic?) to make it into an ensemble all of its own.

All takes some work, and I know some will say that Yamaha (and others) should have got it right 'out of the box', but it's worth the effort. When I'm teaching keyboard above Grade 3 or so, this kind of thing is de rigeur, as examiners want to see players really using the keyboard, not just playing the notes and chords in the right order!
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Del

You could try epic strings 1 & 2 from sound packs.com

Amwilburn

Try Slowstrings from legacy, SeattleSlowStrings from Strings. And yes, a bunch of nice string pads, like SuperDarkPad (in Legacy)

Mark