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Rumor has it Yamaha will no longer produce arranger KBs?

Started by Dnj, May 18, 2023, 12:35:44 PM

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Dnj

Quote from: Jeff Hollande on May 22, 2023, 09:32:35 AM
Thank you, Dnj ! 👍

Another Genos' update ? ... hard to believe, I guess.
A Genos' successor, introduction in Nov 2023 ? I guess so. Cross my fingers. ;)
Best wishes, JH

What are you looking for in a New genos model?

Jeff Hollande

Personally I am very interested in how the Genos' successor will look like and what it will bring us... but it is not my intention to buy one.
I am an old fashioned musician. I love my instruments and it is hard for me to say goodbye to my good old Tyros4, the best arranger ( in my perception ) of the Tyros serie.

Bye for now, JH

Keyboard Master

I believe one reason why it's taking extra time is Yamaha is making a lot more content voice styles etc. I still believe sometime this year web will see a surprise 😎

JohnS (Ugawoga)

Quote from: Dnj on May 22, 2023, 09:51:11 AM
What are you looking for in a New genos model?

Step recording chords/fills other that factory styles
Do away with Chord looper.

Easier way to make your own styles
Quantize pads.
I would also like to se a pro style EQ so you can see what is going on and a decent compressor
Better Guitars and Strings  and more still. Piano's 8)
Genos, I7 computer 32 gig ram, Focusrite 6i6, Cubase controller, Focal Alpha Monitors, Yamaha DXR8 Speakers
Cubase 10, Sonarworks, Izotope.  Sampletank, Arturia and Korg software.  Now IK Mixbox

mikf

I understand why some people would never use the chord looper, but don't understand why removing it would be an improvement?
Mike

EileenL

No Mike it wouldn't. Lots of people find it useful for composing or even just playing live as it leaves both hands free to play piano along with it.
Eileen

Jeff Hollande

Hi John :

Most Genos' owners might expect much more spectacular new features if they want to upgrade, I guess. ;)

Best wishes, JH

EileenL

I think most of us will be happy with new styles and voices plus some improvements on the present operating system.
Eileen

Danny1972

Quote from: EileenL on June 13, 2023, 06:01:27 PM
I think most of us will be happy with new styles and voices plus some improvements on the present operating system.

I think people may want much more than this since what you said above could all be done from an OS upgrade. v2 for example covered most of it already once.

EileenL

There is only so much that can be done with an upgrade and I think they went as far as they could with the version 2 memory wise. I know there have been lots of requests that I don't even understand let alone use. I don't think many people use half that is on Genos now. Ask anyone who goes out playing live or is just a hobby player what else they would like and they will always say New voices and styles and improve some of the functions on Genos at present.
Eileen

Danny1972

Quote from: EileenL on June 14, 2023, 12:00:45 PM
There is only so much that can be done with an upgrade and I think they went as far as they could with the version 2 memory wise. I know there have been lots of requests that I don't even understand let alone use. I don't think many people use half that is on Genos now. Ask anyone who goes out playing live or is just a hobby player what else they would like and they will always say New voices and styles and improve some of the functions on Genos at present.

I think that's absolutely right, there are things on the Genos that people may never use but I suspect Yamaha could drop some of that stuff in favour of new things if need be. In fact I expect them to, not sure what though. I think I would be just happy with the things you're after as long as it's fairly worthwhile upgrade. Some additional Revo drums would be essential for me to get one, that's the main thing I am looking out for. They are great sounding drum kits.

EileenL

Yes Danny I have to agree the revo drums are great.
Eileen

vitalog2010

Hi Guys,

I have sold my Genos in last summer of 2022, and waited for yamaha to release a new Genos in 2022. Since Yamaha didn't released a new Genos in 2022, I bought the Genos again after a few months I sold it. It's now 2023 summer, and I did the same thing - I have sold my Genos a few days ago and again waiting a new Genos release :D Hope, that yamaha will not let us down and they will finally release a new Genos before the end of this year ::) I do not have an idea, will I buy old Genos again or not, if Yamaha will not release a new Genos in this year ;)

Regarding the new features and options of the new Genos, I wrote an article and there I stated all my personal desires for improving the new Genos. If you are interested, you can read my article here: https://psrstyles.com/our-blog/yamaha-keyboard-news/43-yamaha-genos-2-coming.html

I think you will find something interesting for you in my article.

Thank you

Fred Smith

Quote from: vitalog2010 on June 30, 2023, 06:06:04 PM
I have sold my Genos in last summer of 2022, and waited for yamaha to release a new Genos in 2022. Since Yamaha didn't released a new Genos in 2022, I bought the Genos again after a few months I sold it. It's now 2023 summer, and I did the same thing - I have sold my Genos a few days ago and again waiting a new Genos release :D Hope, that yamaha will not let us down and they will finally release a new Genos before the end of this year ::) I do not have an idea, will I buy old Genos again or not, if Yamaha will not release a new Genos in this year ;)

Regarding the new features and options of the new Genos, I wrote an article and there I stated all my personal desires for improving the new Genos. If you are interested, you can read my article here: https://psrstyles.com/our-blog/yamaha-keyboard-news/43-yamaha-genos-2-coming.html

Why not wait until AFTER the Genos 2 release to sell your Genos?

Cheers,
Fred
Fred Smith,
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Sun Lakes, AZ
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ton37

Quote from: vitalog2010 on June 30, 2023, 06:06:04 PM
Hi Guys,

I have sold my Genos in last summer of 2022, and waited for yamaha to release a new Genos in 2022. Since Yamaha didn't released a new Genos in 2022, I bought the Genos again after a few months I sold it. It's now 2023 summer, and I did the same thing - I have sold my Genos a few days ago and again waiting a new Genos release :D Hope, that yamaha will not let us down and they will finally release a new Genos before the end of this year ::) I do not have an idea, will I buy old Genos again or not, if Yamaha will not release a new Genos in this year ;)

Regarding the new features and options of the new Genos, I wrote an article and there I stated all my personal desires for improving the new Genos. If you are interested, you can read my article here: https://psrstyles.com/our-blog/yamaha-keyboard-news/43-yamaha-genos-2-coming.html

I think you will find something interesting for you in my article.

Thank you
I don't think this has much to do with music? It seems more like you want to lose as little money as possible on your Genos? It is more like trading Bitcoins, risk is always involved. As soon as a new Genos 2 appears on the market, you know that the trade-in / resale value of the Genos 1 will decrease compared to today's price level. But also take into account another scenario: the first batch of a possible new Genossen 2 will be firmly overpriced. Gone is your 'profit or less loss'. If you wait a year, that price will be significantly lower. So, if you don't want to lose too much money on your current Genos1, you can also just wait another 2 years. On the other hand, if you can spend that much money on a new Genos 2, I wonder what 'the profit' is of your current way of working? But I can't look into your wallet and in the end it's up to you. Happy speculation ..  ;)
My best regards,
Ton

JohnS (Ugawoga)

If there is a new Genos on the way , they are doing a good job of keeping it a secret.
You would of thought there would be a hint of a leak as there is always a whistleblower somewhere :)
Genos, I7 computer 32 gig ram, Focusrite 6i6, Cubase controller, Focal Alpha Monitors, Yamaha DXR8 Speakers
Cubase 10, Sonarworks, Izotope.  Sampletank, Arturia and Korg software.  Now IK Mixbox

EileenL

Eileen

JohnS (Ugawoga)

Hi Eileen
Oh!! "Things to Come"!! :) or "What If"  :) :)!!!
Genos, I7 computer 32 gig ram, Focusrite 6i6, Cubase controller, Focal Alpha Monitors, Yamaha DXR8 Speakers
Cubase 10, Sonarworks, Izotope.  Sampletank, Arturia and Korg software.  Now IK Mixbox