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Started by Enildo, April 06, 2020, 07:07:45 AM

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Enildo

Quote from: gabrielschuck on May 17, 2022, 02:03:45 PM

I also want to remind you that the Ketron Audia is a keyboard that has been around for 12 years and has audio styles, not only the drum part, but also basses, guitars, etc.

Hello Gabriel,

Very well remembered, Gabriel. Ketron Audya 5 has styles with multiple audio parts.
Please don't tell me to sell my SX900 and buy the Audya 5, I'm a yamaha fan boy for several reasons and would like to grow with the brand. Yamaha keyboards have improved dramatically over the last decade.

Enildo
When word fail, Music speaks!

DjTony1981

There should be no doubt that large companies such as Yamaha are more interested in selling hardware instead of software, since, obviously, more a software is known, more it is prone to cracking. In your opinion how many copies of vocaloid has actually sold compared to the ones it hasn't sold because there have been those who use the cracked versions? Audio Phaser for example would have been an excellent software to produce Audio Styles but it is stuck at version 1.0.1, where the audio fills do not play except at the beginning of the phrase.

gabrielschuck

Quote from: Enildo on May 17, 2022, 02:53:09 PM
Hello Gabriel,

Very well remembered, Gabriel. Ketron Audya 5 has styles with multiple audio parts.
Please don't tell me to sell my SX900 and buy the Audya 5, I'm a yamaha fan boy for several reasons and would like to grow with the brand. Yamaha keyboards have improved dramatically over the last decade.

Enildo
Of course not, friend.
I only commented on Ketron Audia because it has an advantage at this point.
I'm also a Yamaha fan, I had the pleasure of having the PSR510 as my first keyboard from that brand. And yes, they have evolved dramatically since then.
And I've never heard demos from other keyboard brands, and the Ketron Audia was one that really surprised me.

My opinion, as a Yamaha fan, is to keep an eye on it.
At the time it was then Solton, the brand already had this market vision of a keyboard that had sampled sounds and realistic styles.
Yamaha has now popularized this a thing that was already thought light years ago.
Regards
Gabriel
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keyboardist, arranger, composer and music producer

"Life is like music. It must be composed by ear, with sensitivity and intuition, never by rigid rules."

gabrielschuck

Quote from: DjTony1981 on May 17, 2022, 02:55:18 PM
There should be no doubt that large companies such as Yamaha are more interested in selling hardware instead of software, since, obviously, more a software is known, more it is prone to cracking. In your opinion how many copies of vocaloid has actually sold compared to the ones it hasn't sold because there have been those who use the cracked versions? Audio Phaser for example would have been an excellent software to produce Audio Styles but it is stuck at version 1.0.1, where the audio fills do not play except at the beginning of the phrase.
Friend,
I've heard reports that Phoenix makes their keyboards using reverse engineering, that is, they study the hardware part of other famous brands like Yamaha and implement sometimes very similar things, such as voices and styles.
I'm sure many other companies like the Chinese brand Xiaomi itself do this.
Of course, compared to the software part, it turns out to be a little more difficult. But those who have knowledge know how to do it.
The question is not whether Vocaloid sold too much or too little, but whether it failed to profit from piracy. This makes no sense to me.

As with vocaloid, you will find cracked versions of expensive software and plugins. All this brings harm and worries. Do you still think then that they should stop selling and lose the payer market because of the pirates?

About Audio Phraser, I believe this is a bug that will be fixed. If she wanted to release a paid version, she would have already done so. But as you suggest, it is not interested in profiting from software, so it releases free and buggy versions.
That would be a lot of bull***, don't you think?
Regards,
Gabriel


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keyboardist, arranger, composer and music producer

"Life is like music. It must be composed by ear, with sensitivity and intuition, never by rigid rules."

DjTony1981

Dear gabrielschuck, I don't know where you would like to go .. I repeat that if Yamaha had wanted to invest in software it could have created many excellent DAW software for a fee to create styles, sounds, audio styles, midi files dedicated to the XG system, but from what I have seen he cares highly .. I only applaud as at least compared to other brands it provides a lot of material to allow good programmers in the world to create them such as EMC StyleWorks, StyleMagic, the various utilities of Jørgen Sørensen (which I take this opportunity to thank him), CasmEdit. Instead, as you said, you also release free and buggy software to deceive customers that they have software support that is subsequently not very "usable" ..

Enildo

Quote from: gabrielschuck on May 17, 2022, 03:06:38 PM
Of course not, friend.

Hello Gabriel,
When I talked about not telling me to sell my sx900 and buy an Audya, I didn't mean you specifically, I meant people in general.

YEM does drum audio styles using channels 9 and 10. It's a better solution than AudioPhrase, I think. That's if you want to make your own personal audio drums, but what I wanted were Ballad, Rock, Country, Pop, etc styles made by yamaha themselves.

YEM is also stuck in a format, which has been updated only to insert new models and fix some small defects, but it doesn't evolve.
When word fail, Music speaks!

EileenL

I think Yamaha have chosen Revo drums as the new way to go. With these you can record them to midi if required.
Eileen