I'm still Wating for Genos 2

[Lee Batchelor]

Fine, have it your way Mike. I refuse to bandy this back and forth anymore.

[EileenL]

I have to agree Mike,
  We must remember that most of the team at Yamaha love music and want to bring us a product that will inspire us to play. They are always striving to give us more authentic voicing and styles. I have done many gigs in the past and with a little time setting up things up was able to play non stop through my sets and take requests and be able to bring my settings for certain songs up very quickly.
  Now at 86 I am just enjoying sitting at home playing what I want when I want.

[DrakeM]

I don't recall seeing this style site before:

https://www.carillonstudios.com/yamaha/

They have hundreds of Yamaha styles to purchase if you are wanting some new styles.

If think you can create some really nice sounding style yourself with your own keyboard's with just a bit of practice time spent with the style creator program.

Regards
Drake

[ton37]

Oh Oh, Drake,  this brings back memories... I had several floppies with Carillon styles back in the days of the Technics KN7000 and earlier. 

[EileenL]

These styles were not always the best in the past.

[ton37]

These styles were not always the best in the past.

I wasn't either 

[Des O]

A faster processor would be nice, I find that searching and finding styles etc just hangs up. Could just be the amount I have on USB but It struggles to find somtimes and have to restart/reboot the keyboard as it freezes up on searching.

[mikf]

I dont think the processor speed ot the usb would be the problem. You might try to divide up the styles into multiple folders if you have too many in a single directory.
Mike

[tyrosman]

On my wishlist is drawbar or 'gammond' organ improvements - perhaps integrating their own YC-61 (organ keyboard) tech into the Genos 2?

-Jim

yes jim i would agree with that one

[Mark]

Hello everyone, I think this topic is really relevant to what I've done today, so hopefully, you'll find my post interesting
You've discussed the Genos OS and in particular the filesystem
I've made a video that describes 10 items around the filesystem that can be improved in future generations of Yamaha Keyboards
The video is available here (I apologize in advance, English is not my native language, but I've tried my best )
https://youtu.be/0z-FlcjOYx0

Here is a textual summary of the suggested items:

• Favorites function - introduce folders or any other hierarchical structure to work on different projects simultaneously
• Favorites function - Allow storing favorites from Factory(Preset) area, User Memory, Expansion Memory, USB Memory Stick
• Search - Allow Search in folders, in locations (search for style in USB flash drive)
• Search - Allow searching by criteria. For example, for styles: search not only by name but also by genre, tempo range, time signature, creation time, etc.
• Search - Allow explicit cache (index) invalidation of the USB content so that the data won't be invalidated
• Usability - Left Panel for factory sounds/style is categorized by genre, but it doesn't work like this user memory/expansion memory - make it the same, maybe by introducing additional optional label in the style file and adding a way to set such a label
• Usability - Make access to all the icons
• Automatically turn off Caps lock after the first entered symbol - all the tablets and phones do those these days.
• Files Management - introduce a clipboard-like way of file manipulation, like copy/paste - why not stick to the conventions known to everyone
• Overall File System Access - Allow access to the file system of the synthesizer from the computer (PC/Mac) without the need to enter the mass storage mode and reboot the synthesizer.

Thanks and Regards,
Mark

[Michael Trigoboff]

I especially like #8. This has been an aggravation for me with every Yamaha keyboard I have owned. No other screen-based keyboard works this way. For that matter, no other mechanical keyboard works this way either.

[Lee Batchelor]

If I may add, Mark - regarding the typing area. Put the apostrophe on the main page instead of buried among the symbols !!!!!! There are tons of songs that require an apostrophe. I can't think of any right now .

And yes, make the Genos appear as a full fledged device on a PC or Mac. It would be so nice to edit registrations on a computer and I mean everything to do with the registration. Murray Best created a program, which I believe took him years and with help from some other coding gurus. He did a great job but he shouldn't have had to.

Yamaha should look at the Mac and PC operating systems and ask Genos users what's needed. There are too many unconventional things in the current OS and many things just missing. I'm glad lots of people say the system works perfectly for them. It doesn't for lots of other folks.

[EileenL]

I do think we tend to forget that a keyboard is not a computer and is not supposed to be. It may Have similar ways of doing things but is still a musical instrument. I found using the keyboard a little strange at first but after getting used to it don't give it a second thought now. It is much better than the old way we had to name things.
  As for Icons do we really need hundreds of them. The ones we have do the job nicely. Doesn't make you play any better. If you need to access Pack voices quickly then save your favourites to registrations or OTS settings on a style. Lots of packs have registrations on them anyway.
  Accessing keyboard user on computer only takes a few minutes so I don't see this as being a problem. Surely we have to expect to spend some time on the keyboard setting it as we want it.

[Lee Batchelor]

I agree with you, Eileen. You can do virtually everything you want right on the Genos. However, for the advanced functions, it would be much easier if the Genos connection to a PC was more complete.

Agreed, the Genos is not a computer in the strictest definition but if you take away "everything that is a computer" inside the Genos, you have no functionality. It is driven by computer technology. That technology should be as smooth as possible for advanced level functions. Currently, there is a lot of room for improvement.

If Yamaha doesn't want to add that functionality to the Genos, that's fine. Just make it so we can connect to a PC and work "outside the box." At the moment, that functionality is very limited without third party help, which is often incomplete because those developers have no access to critical code and systems hidden by Yamaha - which I agree with. It's their product! They must protect their design. Meanwhile, interfacing to a PC could be done by Yamaha, but they are the ones who would need to do it. I'd pay extra for that software. It would another revenue stream for them.

[Mike2]

I'm very glad that this topic has been replied by so many.  If Yamaha does read these, and adds a few of these wishes, then the next Genos 2 should be something else.  I agree with Lee.  The whole inside of the Genos, is all computer, chips and much more. Bring it On!!

[ton37]

If all these whishes would be accepted and implemented  by Yamaha, then it's modelname can not be a "Genos" or a " Sx". We may expect a total redefined and redesigned  supernew keyboard, as Yamaha's Genos successor after all these years. If it is called a Genos2, then it is  only renewed with 'minor' changes to continue the Genos success. ... so if it is to be a " Genos 2" I will be  disappointed. ;-))

[soryt]

There is no successor to except this year 

S,