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Started by Michael Trigoboff, March 24, 2022, 07:03:47 PM

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Michael Trigoboff

When I am creating a style, does it matter whether I create one as SFF1 or SFF2?

I know that SFF2 is for the Genos, which is what I have. But the Genos can also play SFF1 styles, and when I am working on one of those I can also use software like Jørgen Sørensen's CASM Editor, which only works on styles of type SFF1.

Is there a situation where it would be advantageous to create an SFF2 style instead?
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ckobu

This video nicely explains how Yamaha Style works, and as of 11:30 sec., the difference between sff1 and sff2 has been explained.
https://youtu.be/be_0JnhI-Wc?t=691
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Rick D.

mtrigoboff

This I found in the forum.

The ONLY difference between the two formats is the structure of the CASM data. The CASM data in the style tells the keyboard how to interpret the MIDI data in the style. The SFF2 format has 3 seperate data settings for low, midrange and high notes while the SFF1 format has a general data setting for all notes.Apr 10, 2021

I would go with SFF2, unless you want to play them on an older model keyboard as well, but they have converters if need be.

Rick D.

ckobu

SFF2 has Guitar mode capability
https://youtu.be/bJ8Sip05_24?t=195
SFF2 can divide each channel into three zones
https://app.box.com/s/b0oqmde1bukik77foxsaiigikgqcsz05

There are some more differences but I think these two are the most important.
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Quote from: mtrigoboff on March 24, 2022, 07:03:47 PM
When I am creating a style, does it matter whether I create one as SFF1 or SFF2?

I know that SFF2 is for the Genos, which is what I have. But the Genos can also play SFF1 styles, and when I am working on one of those I can also use software like Jørgen Sørensen's CASM Editor, which only works on styles of type SFF1.

Is there a situation where it would be advantageous to create an SFF2 style instead?

Hi Michael,

You can use "CasmEdit" by Evgeny Osenenko. It's SFF2 compatible now:
>>> https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,62018.msg475081.html#msg475081

By the way, if you load an SFF1 Style into the Genos and then resave it on the Genos (e.g. after adding OTS), it will be automatically converted to SFF2 format.

Here you can download the Yamaha Style file decription (now covering the SFF2 format) by Peter Wierzba and Michael P. Bedesem:
>>> http://www.wierzba.homepage.t-online.de/stylefiles.htm


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Chris
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