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Syncing Multipad vocals with Style

Started by Rick D., April 11, 2022, 04:58:55 AM

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Rick D.

Hi Guys,

Is there a way to make syncing a vocal multipad to a style easier? I have been struggling with trying to do this with a few songs I am trying to add vocals too. It is hit or miss for me, if I don't start the multipad at the precise time, the whole thing is off requiring me to stop the style and come in at the correct timing. I have just begun experimenting with this and find it frustrating to get the timing right. I was just wondering if there were some trick to accomplish this.

Thanks,
Rick D.

acparker

One way to do it is to use the sync start feature.

I often use the Multipads for counter melodies in my hymns. --> Not audio, but would work the same way.

Sync start means that the multipad will start with the next chord change.  So select it by pressing the select button and the multipad simultaneously just before the chord that starts it.

Registrations make this easier, since you can save the registration with the sync'd multipad.  If there is no chord change exactly on the dot, add silence to the beginning of the multipad so that you can start it with the chord change just before. 

Clear as mud?  I'm not near the Genos right now, but if you like, I'll send you a registration where I use a multipad in this way.

Adam
Current Projects:
Arranging Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat for the Genos
Writing Sequel to my novel, "Megin's Clay" (by Adam Parker)
Playing and Singing for Saint James Major Catholic Church (Sharbot Lake)

Rick D.

Hi Adam,

I actually have the multipad in my registration and use sync start.
I think your suggestion to add silence may be the key. I will have to try to do that with Audacity. The vocal doesn't come in until the forth bar and there is a dead spot at the beginning of the vocal. I guess I will have to add more silence and time it properly. This I feel is not too easy, but I will give it a try.

Thanks for the tip,

Rick D.

acparker

Hey Rick,
What I would probably do in your situation, is to record a midi multipad with one note -- where the vocals should start.  That way you can set the bars/beats of silence by the music.  Then if you save an audio recording of just the multipad playing, and import it into Audacity, you'll have a guide to how much silence you need before the vocal starts.  Multiple steps, but easier than trying to guess *exactly* how long the silence needs to be.

Hope that is also helpful!

Adam
Current Projects:
Arranging Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat for the Genos
Writing Sequel to my novel, "Megin's Clay" (by Adam Parker)
Playing and Singing for Saint James Major Catholic Church (Sharbot Lake)

Rick D.

Adam,

I have been thinking about this, you are correct trying to guess how much silence I need is going to be tough.
I think you may be onto something with your new suggestion.
I will play around with it, and let you know.

Thanks,
Rick D.

Fred Smith

Quote from: Rick D. on April 12, 2022, 06:30:58 AM
I have been thinking about this, you are correct trying to guess how much silence I need is going to be tough.
I think you may be onto something with your new suggestion.
I will play around with it, and let you know.

Another option is to add a registration which brings in the vocal when it's needed. If you need the vocal on the 4th bar, then have a registration for that. Everything else can be the same (voices, style, etc). You trigger the vocal by pressing a chord at the right time.

Cheers,
Fred
Fred Smith,
Saskatoon, SK
Sun Lakes, AZ
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Check out my Registration Lessons

Rick D.

Hi Fred,

I have it in a registration now, but it only loads the multipad, but does not start it. the song has 7 bars of music the a whole not rest before the multipad needs to come in but I think part of the problem is I have a slight delay for in the wav file I am using for the multipad. I will eliminate that and give your suggestion a try.

Thanks

Rick D.