Shiny spots

[Ingar]

My new, but used Genos have a shiny spot on the the matt surface which is due to fingertouch. Is there any way to get rid of it? It is recomended to wipe the surface with a dry cloth, but it does not help. What do you use to clean your Genos?
Regards Ingar

[Toril S]

I too have a couple of shiny spots on my Genos now! They do not vanish after wiping the surface with a soft cloth with a drop of clean water on it. So my guess is that the surface has been worn down a little bit by the touch of my fingers. Other members here have also told of this happening.

[Lee Batchelor]

My musician friend bought a cheap toy keyboard for my grandson a few years back. My grandson played it from about age 4 to 10. I can say he wasn't always gentle with it and there were lots of buttons to explore. The surface of that "toy" is still mint. My $6,000 Genos has shiny spots and one factory defect. For the factory surface defect, Yamaha refunded me some money, so it's not really in the equation. What is in the equation is the fact that they have cheaped out on the quality of the case.

The good news is the internal stuff is pristine. I'd rather have a few blemishes than a terrible sound for my $6,000, althought we used to get both in the same package - the Tyros series comes to mind !

[EileenL]

Years ago all black keyboards would do this especially Technics keyboards. It would not be long before you had shiny rings around the volume knobs and buttons but we accepted that this would happen if we used it a lot for hours of enjoyment and did not let it worry us.

[Janus]

Years ago all black keyboards would do this especially Technics keyboards. It would not be long before you had shiny rings around the volume knobs and buttons but we accepted that this would happen if we used it a lot for hours of enjoyment and did not let it worry us.

You can use transparant pieces of tape under the knobs
When they become dirty use new pieces
And by resale remove the tape and the keyboard looks as new

Gr.Jan

[blackpool]

I have always used a SMALL amount of a regular household spray liquid glass cleaner on my boards ie. Windowlene or Mr Muscle etc...
Obviously not spayed onto the board itself - but a just a little on a soft cloth CAREFULLY APPLIED has always worked well to remove grease, which is often the cause of shinny patches.
Heavy use around switches and knobs does erode the plastic surface and you would think for the cost makers could provide added protection for these areas.

As Janus says...the clear transfers do help to protect from damage or stop it looking/getting worse.

[Ingar]

Yes I manage to remove the shiny spots beside exit button..

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[Janus]

My new, but used Genos have a shiny spot on the the matt surface which is due to fingertouch. Is there any way to get rid of it? It is recomended to wipe the surface with a dry cloth, but it does not help. What do you use to clean your Genos?
Regards Ingar

I have anothe resolutie
I got a 20 years old psr9000pro
i use it as master board most knobs are the same as on the tyros
The greatest advantage is i spare the key contacts on the tyros
The contacts on the psr9000pro are metal selfs cleaning springs
In the 20 years a us it never trouble with the contacts

[Lee Batchelor]

Yes I manage to remove the shiny spots beside exit button..

How?

[Toril S]

Yes, how please?

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi
Shiny spots will disappear --How, see the doctor!!


Spray alcahol on the keyboard surface , Which comes in the form of Spec Savers glass cleaner or even vinyl record cleaner.
Always wipe with a glass cleaner cloth  as you do when cleaning your spectacles.
Or even a soft camera cloth or TV screen cloth.
Always clean the transparent screen  with soft cloth and alchahol based spray.

Another tip hairspray is good for getting biro ink from pens off a leather sofa. Works a treat.


All the best
John Ps, if you want fun, keep taking the tablets.

[Toril S]

Thanks John😀

[Ingar]

In my case, the surface was not worn, but the shiny spot was glazes grease from fingers, and I simply lift it off with some not to aggressive tape. Be wery careful about solvents because the screen printed letters can easily become affected.

Best regards Ingar

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Record cleaner works a treat  and Spectacle cleaner. Shiny spots disappear with a light spray and  rub with a very soft cloth.
Anti static cleaner. Or CD wipes.
None of this is harmful to the keyboard surface  It is very nice to my vinyl records which i treasure . It sometimes gets on the label but drys in seconds, no harm done.
I would of thought tape to be more aggressive and sticky.. especially Gorilla tape!!

[Toril S]

I used spectacle cleaner and a soft cloth, but unfortunately the spots did not vanish. They are a little less visible, but still there...

[Ingar]

I used spectacle cleaner and a soft cloth, but unfortunately the spots did not vanish. They are a little less visible, but still there...

If the surface is actually worn, I guess you have to live with it. But if it is glazed greas from fingers, then maybee it helps to let the cleaner work for a while. The grease maybee need som time to dissolve.

[Toril S]

Thanks Ingar😀

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Toril
I suppose some people have acidy fingers
Try the spectacle cleaner again or even record cleaner , same stuff amost.
It works for me. I do it as soon as anything shiny starts to appear.
I always use a vacuum cleaner with a flat nozzle to get between the espace between the keys and bottom part of the casing.
Also go lightly over the top around the buttons and knobs and finish with a anti-static cloth.
Always use a clean damp cloth to clean the keys.
No Problem!!

For stubborn spots , i wonder if a little Fairy liquid would degrease the spot ( Only a very minute amount on a clean cloth or it will take forever to get off.)
It is a degreaser for sure. Use a lttle clean water on cloth not dripping and soft paper towel. Then use some spectacle cleaner to finish.
Failing that get a chainsaw on it!!


All the best
John

[Toril S]

Thanks John! Good tips, minus the chainsaw😀😀😀

[overover]

Hi folks,

I wonder why so many (arranger) keyboard owners always want an instrument that looks like it has just been unpacked from the box.

In my opinion, an instrument that is used regularly can also show certain signs of use.

Guitarists, for example, give a lot of money for brand new "Custom Shop" instruments, that look like they have been played on the road for 50+ years. This Fender Custom Shop 1963 Stratocaster (it's brand new and comes straight from the factory!) costs e.g. about 7,500 euros:

>>> https://www.musik-produktiv.de/guitar-gallery/fender-custom-shop-1963-stratocaster-heavy-relic-3tsb.html





Best regards,
Chris

[Toril S]

Yes, we are a little crazy.😀

[Lee Batchelor]

Point taken, overover. However, where I buy my keyboards they accept trade-ins and offer very good value when I want to upgrade. They have a formula for the trade-in value of your keyboard. It has three levels:

• Standard - functions perfectly but has some damage to the surface case and buttons
• Clean - functions perfectly and has some wear
• Extra clean - functions perfectly and has almost no signs of wear

In the past 25 years, I have traded in 12 keyboards - all extra clean. I received top dollar for them and hence avoided the questionable people coming to my house to "try out my keyboard for sale" for about eight hours and then not buying it. The keyboards were extra clean because I looked after them. Unfortunately, the Genos will not attain the same level on trade-in when the time comes. It gets cleaned after every gig but the cheap finish will cost me. I'll be lucky to be in the Clean category. Your vintage Fender example is totally different. You're really comparing apples and oranges .

To be fair to overover, I've heard it said that, "If your gear is in mint shape, you're not gigging enough !" Whoever owned that Fender was a great player, I'm sure.

[Toril S]

I used my PSR-2100 for over 14 years, and there was not a mark on it. I have had my Genos for 11 months now, and have shiny spots that do not go away with cleaning. A little sad about that, here in Norway the Genos is super expensive, but I will probable not sell it, so I will try to stop thinking about the finish. By the way, my accordion have many signs of use, it has even tumbled to the floor a couple of times

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi
The reason for looking after your Genos is to keep it pristine for a maximum trade in for Genos 3,4,5 etc Until  the Quantum 1 is released.
Also i, like anyone else, would not like to sell a worn keyboard to anyone.
It takes only little care to keep the Genos in tip top condition.
I notice with youngsters today that their mobile phones are all scratched to pieces and they throw them around, recklessly(easy come ,easy go) then change them every year. Even on Furlough!!
I think some of us older generation did not have a lot years back and looking after things was bred into us.
All well and good with an electric guitar, as Instruments like guitars, mandolins , violins etc. They seem gain value the more they are worn in.
Thank god for musicians keeping moog synths, jupiters etc in pristine order. History there.


All the best
John

[Ingar]

I used my PSR-2100 for over 14 years, and there was not a mark on it. I have had my Genos for 11 months now, and have shiny spots that do not go away with cleaning. A little sad about that, here in Norway the Genos is super expensive, but I will probable not sell it, so I will try to stop thinking about the finish. By the way, my accordion have many signs of use, it has even tumbled to the floor a couple of times

Come to think of it, the surface on an expensive instrument like Genos can`t be of such poor quality that it get worn by finger touch. I do not belive that, there must be a way to remove greas stains.
   

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

ALCOHOL BASED SPRAY!!:

[Lee Batchelor]

I've only ever used warm water on a soft cloth.

[EileenL]

Yes that is all I use  and mine shows no shiny spots at all so far and I have had it for two years now.

[Stubby]

I agree with the recommendations for eyeglass cleaner, in addition to washing my hands before fingering the keys, assuming I remember.  It's a little easier these days since I'm not only washing more but using more alcohol-based hand sanitizer due to that nasty thing that's been circulating.

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Not grubby stubby !!!