emc styleworks with Genos error help!!

[Jørgen]

Hi Jorgen
I have tried this and yes midi2 style made another file  but still get the same exception.
I do not know what is going on as i am not computer minded with the ins and outs of a program.

This is what is in exception file-------- This is chinese to me lol.
All the best
John
SNIP

Hi
You are not supposed to open the "ini" file in the program.
Use Windows Explorer to find it and delete it
Jørgen

[Jørgen]

Hmmm.. The software does not find the file midi2style.ini ...
It's strange that it looks for it in that folder.
Mine installation has created those files in "C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\jososoft"

Check if you have that files there...

Hi
You are not supposed to open the "ini" file in the program.
Use Windows Explorer to find it and delete it
Jørgen

[Jørgen]

Hi Val

I have had a look and this is what i get
I looked inside that ini file and it goes through the copyright and then says program loading,
then a string of nulls, probably trying it's best to load the progam .
program cannot load because the exception screen  keeps appearing
The gui is frozen like a picture,no buttons or anything works.
I must have a gremlin in the machine!!

Alltthe best
john

Hi
Try to delete the first file.
Jørgen

PS: To my opinion set Windows Explorer to show file extensions...

[Jørgen]

Hi

Have you checked the Java Version... ? Details at http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/articles/software_5.htm

Jørgen

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Jorgen

I have got the Latest Java 64 bit version which is correct

Has Firefox go anything to do with it as i read it does not support Java somewhere
I do not know how or why browsers have anything to do with this though.
I am getting confused with all of this.
I thought that loading up the correct Java file and Midi2 soft would have done the trick.
I have done all that you have said and deleted the ini file  and it does reappear next time around.
One one occasion i just double clicked to see what this ini file was and information came about  being null.
I need a proper walkthrough for this as i am going in circles.


All the Best
John

[Jørgen]

SNIP
Has Firefox go anything to do with it as i read it does not support Java somewhere
I do not know how or why browsers have anything to do with this though.
SNIP
One one occasion i just double clicked to see what this ini file was and information came about  being null.
SNIP

Hi
Browsers has NOTHING to do with my programs, right!
Can you mail the ini file to me as an attachment ... you have my mail address in the mails I have sent you
Strange if it says "null"...

Regards
Jørgen

[valimaties]

Hi Jorgen.

From Windows 7 to 10, the Application Data folder cannot be opened even if you are PC administrator... Maybe it's about AppData folder, which is other thing Or maybe is a settings I don't know?! 



Everything you create "hard coded" in Application Data folder, you will see it will find from Windows 7 till now in AppData\Roaming folder.
Application Data was made in Windows Vista (worst Windows ever), and later was changed to AppData .
This is what I know...

[Jørgen]

Hi

You will find the midi2style.ini file in this folder: "C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\jososoft"

NOT in "C:\Users\<UserName>\Application Data\Roaming\jososoft"

Jørgen

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Jorgen
I have just sent the files to you.  ini file plus the other two logs.

I have no emails from you  at the moment, , but sent email to Josoft@



All the Best
John

[valimaties]

Hi

You will find the midi2style.ini file in this folder: "C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\jososoft"

NOT in "C:\Users\<UserName>\Application Data\Roaming\jososoft"

Jørgen

I know Jorgen,

only the error is a little bit confusing...

java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Users\John Sammons\Application Data\jososoft\midi2style.ini

I don't know why java search for that path 

[Jørgen]

Hi

The files looks fine.

The original error message tells the error occurs at line 15740 in the code - check image attached.
At that code line a setup initializing method is called.
This method does basically two things:
1. sets the UI language using values from the midi2style.ini file - line 9 in your file reads: 0 - and this is English. Check = Fine!
2. sets MIDI device...

The error is a "NullPointerException" which means that the program calls for something which is not existing...
Now my question is: Which MIDI devices are installed and active at your computer? If any...

MIDI setup in Windows 7, 8 and 10 is not existing.
Remedy is to install a MIDI setup software.
For details - and links to software - please read http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/articles/software_2.htm

It is a bit strange that below the heading [MIDI device] in the ini file is blank line - which means nothing...
Therefore try one of the MIDI setup programs mentioned at the web page above; and select a MIDI device in this program...
Might do the trick...

I am somewhat confused about this problem... 

Jørgen

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[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Jorgen
I have downloaded your midi selector and it said Workstation 1 which is normaly correct for  Genos midi
The Genos is the only midi device on .

Looks like a dead end at the moment.
Hopefully something can be done.
I appreciate all of your help Jorgen trying to help.

Ps I have tried all ways to get Midi2Style up and running . Uninstalled about three times and reinstalled , but this exception Comes up every time in Midi to Style.
When installing Java  64bit version it says after test Successful. I am stumped here


All the best
John

[Jørgen]

Hi

My subconscious does not relax while sleeping - the time here is 04:05

When my keyboard is power OFF I have the windows default MIDI device "Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth" only - first image
When my keyboard is power ON I have more MIDI devices - second image

If you do not have "Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth" and your keyboard is power OFF, you will have no MIDI devices.
The the midi2style program will then demand a non-existing device... which results in a NullPointerException...

Well, maybe just a wild guess from a tired brain. Back to sleep...
Jørgen

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[overover]

... When my keyboard is power OFF I have the windows default MIDI device "Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth" only - first image
When my keyboard is power ON I have more MIDI devices - second image

If you do not have "Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth" and your keyboard is power OFF, you will have no MIDI devices.
The midi2style program will then demand a non-existing device... which results in a NullPointerException...
...

Hi Jørgen,

this is exactly what I was thinking when I recommended John in Reply #6 to first set up the "Microsoft GS Wavtable Synth" as the Standard MIDI device with the "Putzlowitsch" MIDI Mapper (that is included in "Style Works"):

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,52438.msg410154.html#msg410154

Style Works generates an error Message like "INVALID_DEVICE_NAME 263()". Maybe it is basically the same error (in John's Windows System) that also prevents "Midi2Style" from working properly ...


Best regards,
Chris

[overover]

Hi John,

if the MIDI problems persist, I recommend to do the following:


• Download, install (let make a Desktop Icon during installation!) and finally run this free "MIDI Cleaner" program (I have used this tool successfully on my PCs several times in the past"):

https://www.voiceliveeditor.com/download-midi-cleaner



• Click "Re-Create UpperFilter" button in the "Midi and Audio Cleaner" window.
 
• Be sure "Midi Devices" is displayed above the list box. Otherwise click on the blue "MIDI" button.
   
• If you have multiple instances of the same MIDI driver listed, remove the DUPLICATES. (Tick the particular check box(es), click "Clean from Registry" button, BUT leave ONE instance of the MIDI Driver in the list.)

• Close the program window.

• Restart Windows and check if Style Works and Midi2Style work properly now.

   
• If NOT, I recommend to completely DEINSTALL ALL installed MIDI Drivers (for example the "Yamaha USB-MIDI Driver") by using the Windows Control Panel and to restart Windows.

• Then run "Midi and Audio Cleaner" once more. If there are still MIDI drivers listed, remove them ALL (in the same way as mentioned before).

• Click "Re-Create UpperFilter" once more, close the program and restart Windows.

• Install the Yamaha USB-MIDI Driver again and test Style Works and Midi2Style again.


Note: IF the "Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth" should be NOT listed when you open a "MIDI Mapper" program, I recommend to go to the Windows Device Manager and DEINSTALL the Sound Driver of your internal Sound Card there (like "High Definition Audio Device). Then restart Windows. (The Driver should be automatically re-installed, AND the "Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth" should be available again, then.)


Hope this helps!

Note: All these hints are without warranty! I can not guarantee that it works in your case as described, of course.


Best regards,
Chris

[Jørgen]

Hi Jørgen,

this is exactly what I was thinking when I recommended John in Reply #6 to first set up the "Microsoft GS Wavtable Synth" as the Standard MIDI device with the "Putzlowitsch" MIDI Mapper (that is included in "Style Works"):

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,52438.msg410154.html#msg410154

Style Works generates an error Message like "INVALID_DEVICE_NAME 263()". Maybe it is basically the same error (in John's Windows System) that also prevents "Midi2Style" from working properly ...


Best regards,
Chris

Hi Chris

Yes, I think Johns problem is, that a default MIDI device is not present, hence the NullPinterException in my program...
Well, never met a windows computer without a default MIDI device before...

Hope, we are right... 
Jørgen

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Jorgen

I have got in a total pickle here and firefox has gone awol and will not shut down as a prompt box keeps returning.
I tried explorer and that now disappears. The screen flickered when i done something and that is when Firefox would not shut down no matter what , so what has gone wrong .
I have only installed , uninstalled java and your program
Even things are not what they should be doing in the search bar.
I am so fed up that i am now re imaging my drive .
I am lucky as i only done it 10 days ago so not too much to update.
Just hope the re-image now works.
It is going good up to now. Just reimaging C drive
I looked in the registry and Java is in the Mozilla folder  in software Hkey local machine, so there is a connection .
I not and expert here buti usually clean the registry if i get rid of something for a clean install and i am carefull.
I will have another go when up and running again.
Might take a few hours

Surely the midi 2 Style program has to fully open first to put in the midi devices like other programs.
For example in Mike Bedeseem's  Mixmaster you put in Genos then workstation 1 as it finds it.

I do not know whether this is the same for a Java program

All the best
John

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Jorgen
I have now re-imaged my C drive and all is well again
Just a few updates to make
Phew !! That was a sweat as it is the first time i have done this with Microsoft image.
I could not believe how fast it was.
Something with Java and fiddling about made things worse for me
Why computers are not straightforward I do not know!!

I have done it Jorgen.   SOLVED!!!!!!
After re-imaging my drive with all that hassle before it was the best thing i did.
I updated all my programs and sat thinking for about half an hour and said to myself , Oh well, shall I have another go.
So, i put java in again and the Java program found an older version somehow and warned me that it could do all sorts of horrrrible things like probably i experienced.
So i followed the instructions and let Java unload the older version which i thought was gone.
I then put your program  Midi 2Style in and bingo the program tells me it is ready and all buttons now work.
Got to the set up and it is all go .
Now to figure out the program and hope i can get a result..
Thanks for everyones time here especially Jorgen and Chris . If i did not re-image, i would have never found out.
Everything was crumbling!!. Firefox gave up and all sorts started to manifest.
EMC Styleworks Is flawed and I have not had anything positive from Klaus.I have uninstalled that program .

All the best
John

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Jorgen
I have been looking at the help files and just wondering after loading in a midi file and selecting  parts and deciding what i want and  all the things in the diferrent windows,
Is there not any transposing up and down to get the midi file to C.
Or, is it an automatic conversion once all is in place.
I might be jumping the gun here, but i will get down to studying the program in detail.
I am a slow learner in these things ,but when i get the hang of something it stays there hopefully.

All the best
John

[gerarde]

Hi John,
I don't know if this will help this is what I do.
I play the midi file on Genos to find out what key it is in.
Then I open an old version of Band In The Box that I have and transpose it up or down to C.
Then I save the midi file with the changed key.

Gerard

[Jørgen]

Is there not any transposing up and down to get the midi file to C.
Or, is it an automatic conversion once all is in place.

Automatic...
Just load a MIDI file and begin to select parts... etc.
Check http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/software/midi2style/howto.htm for demo examples... will give you the basic knowledge...
Jørgen

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Jorgen

That is great if it is automatic.
I have looked at other programs like Styleworks from Midisoft  and is a bit long winded. EMC Styleworks has lost the plot now.
I got so far and then you have to transpose and watch what you do with Bass etc
I is hard to understand the man's accent on the video on Utube

So, If it is just following your guidlines and the converting ,that would be great.
I will have a go at this tomorrow and the weekend and let you know how i got on. I like the layout of your program.


All the best
John

[valimaties]

...
I is hard to understand the man's accent on the video on Utube
...

LOL

It is a video John, so put it on mute, to NOT hear the strange accent and see what he is doing right there and do it yourself It is not so difficult

PS: I see is more difficult for English people to understand non-English, but non-English people understand perfectly! It is strange and funny in the same time ))
Seems, we, non-English people, we speak and write in "our" English language, and we understand each other ))) LOL

Cheers,
Vali

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi Val
I have gone throught the video and got as far as the bass track and velocity up and down bits.
I have to go over that part a few times to understand and the guy is too quick on the mouse.
He keeps saying ***Y instead of SECTION   and CHESUK instead of CHECK . My English humour!! Everything is ***Y!! . Why not SAUSAGES!!
I do think people from other countries than England can speak better English than our own people today half the time.
In England we were never taught other languages in the 50's and 60's. Not Compulsory. If you did it was usually French. I stuck with football!!
I will keep going over these programs until i get there.
I will put on mute !!


All the Best
John.

[Joe H]

John,

You can always pause the video at any time and make notes of what you see with onscreen procedure

Joe H

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi joe
I think the penny is dropping now 
I was only having a joke with Vali. My silly English humour!!

Just getting my head around the Transposing and aligning the Inversions.
All the rest i understand fully.
This is with style magic.
I also having a look at Jorgens Midi2 Style.
I do like Style Magic as it is very responsive and does not appear to be any qirks.
I just do not like the Piano roll. I wish it was more like Cubase.

All the Best
John

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

Hi
On Jorgen,s  Midi2 Style  I made a fresh install of Java and the Midi2style program and it worked fine a few days ago.( also used java uninstall tool to check whether it was off my system). I could do with that cup of coffee now!!

I have just updated my System Image of my computer because i have purchased the Cubase upgrade to 10.5.
I sat down today to give midi2style a proper go and guess !!.that java.lang.NullPointerException re-surfaced again.
I have now uninstalled the lot  as it also had a 0x something 57 on the end exception caused by the Java program. Cannot remeber the full oX line.
I have searched all over and it seems that there is something in the midi2style coding that may be playing up.
I am not a programmer, but it is something in coding from what i have read. There is fixes with computer jargon, but that is above my head.
I also have just updated my Nvidia graphic card and wonder whether the card needed the latest Java update as well for all to work .
Just guessing , but i have no joy with Midi2Style at the moment.
Midisoft program is flawless and EMCStyleworks is a lame duck.
I have a great I7 multi-core computer, running win 10 latest and plenty of headroom or ram. No problems with computer as i have done a sfc/scannow, checkdisk, memory checks and system health is optimum as well as protection.

All the best
John

[valimaties]

John, you don't have to be disappointed. As long as there are a lot of programming languages, and each one uses some new or old Runtime files, there will be those kind of unpleasure. It is better that programmer is here with us, so if you want your error to be checked by program's programmer, start your program again, make some screenshots with those errors, and send to him. Maybe it is something he has to re-codding. In this way you will help others too

Best regards,
Vali

[JohnS (Ugawoga)]

HiVal

I have put the screenshot up of the problem in this thread .
I have done all i can to get up and running several installs and uninstalls with the same null pointer problem. Also used Java clean tool to inspect to see if any older version are lurking in the registry.
Some people do not get this problem like me ,so i have not a clue what is going on.
All i know is all my programs are working and my computer is lightning fast.
I typed in this problem or google and it seems that there is some form of codeing problem from the explanations ,but i do not know what all the values are or mean.
It is all chinese to me. If jorgens program is 100% ,then it is that java program with windows 10
I also got a exception and i cannot rememer it fully
It started woth 0x000075 something like that it did have 75 at the end.
I googled that and up came seveal fixes with clean programs which take you all the way and then want you to buy it before fixing the problem.
I have encountered these sort of programs which only give you more problems.. So i steer clear of them.
I will stick with midisoft as it runs like a dream.
Iwould like to know what the problem is though.



All the best
John

[valimaties]

I also got a exception and i cannot rememer it fully
It started woth 0x000075 something like that it did have 75 at the end.

"something like that" is not a good problem to solve by a programmer. He needs EXACTLY the code  to search for and to find what is the problem.
BTW, I don't see any of your screenshots, I don't know why...