How to end a song on a simple sustain?

[VilleGuy]

Question from a newbie...how can I end a song with just a sustain on the final chord?

I don't want to use the three programmed endings. I just want the drums, bass and other accompaniment to end and to have the final chord I hit sustain.

What's the simplest way to do that?
Thanks.

[panos]

Hi VilleGuy,
I can't think another way right now except from playing Ending 1.
Ending 1 doesn't contain any melody parts so it can fit to every song and before pressing the ending 1 is good to press a fill in or combinations of fill ins or even sometimes a combination of a fill in and a break before ending.
When ending 1 starts to play(which is just one measure long) you play the very last note and chord of the song and keep your fingers down for a small period of time.

Sometimes we can use style creator to increase (in other cases to decrease) the length of the last note(or notes) of an organ played by the style(a piano,a brass sound etc) to match somehow with our sustain(Edit tab of the style creator).

Most of the times I use Ending 1 and sometimes the fade out button.

[Joe H]

...how can I end a song with just a sustain on the final chord?...

There is no simple way to do that.  Use a program like StyleMagic or MixMaster to insert a cc72 (Release) on the channels you want to sustain.  The value will vary depending on the Voice. But my guess would be a value of 85 to 95 to start with then adjust according to your needs.  The higher the value, the longer the Release Time (sustain). Insert the cc72 message just before the last note/chord to play. 

You can experiment with the specific Voices by loading them as R1 and opening Voice Set.  Adjust the Release Envelope to get an idea of how each Voice will respond, then insert the cc72 message for each Voice on the channel/part you wish to alter.

Let us know if that works for you.

Joe H

[mikf]

Am I missing something here? You just play the chord in your rh and hold it??
Mike

[Joe H]

Mike he is talking about Release Time in which the sustain slowly fades out. (I think)

Styles do not support the sustain message cc64 because of the potential for "stuck notes".

Joe H

[mikf]

Yes Joe, he probably means a fade. You could hold the chord and reduce the volume. I tend to look for playing solutions.
Mike

[panos]

hahaha every one of us understands a different way how our friend here wants to play the "sustain" ending.
I myself assumed that he wants to play it with with the left hand play the last chord and probably the right hand plys the last note(s) 
but he is asking how to stop the style from playing the efficient way while not using a "ready" made ending of the style.
You can even just take a look of videos on Youtube of a live playing.
Go to the end of the video and watch how the keyboardist ends his cover.
(when he doesn't use a ready made ending or a fade out or other methods like an arpeggio etc).

[travlin-easy]

If I read this correctly, he wants to end the song using a right hand voice and sustain pedal.

I would hit the chord of the right hand voice, hold down the sustain pedal and then quickly press the fade button.

Good luck,

Gary

[VilleGuy]

Thanks for all the tips!

At minimum I'd be happy to find a way to end a song with a chord-sustain following the end of the style.

But ideally I would like to find a way to end a song the same way that a group of live musicians might do. Imagine bass-drums-guitar-keyboard ending a song on a final note or chord, with each one just sustaining their sound (well, not the drums so much.) That doesn't seem to be as easy as I'd hoped!

[Ed B]

Hi
Why not modify ending one of the style to provide whatever kind of ending you want and save it as a custom style.
Regards
Ed B

[Fred Smith]

Thanks for all the tips!

At minimum I'd be happy to find a way to end a song with a chord-sustain following the end of the style.

But ideally I would like to find a way to end a song the same way that a group of live musicians might do. Imagine bass-drums-guitar-keyboard ending a song on a final note or chord, with each one just sustaining their sound (well, not the drums so much.) That doesn't seem to be as easy as I'd hoped!

Rather than sustain, don't you mean fade? I can't imagine why you would want a chord sustained at full volume as an ending. Professional endings fade out.

If you really mean fade, then just hold down your chord, and hit the fade button.

Cheers,
Fred

[larrygreen1]

Does anyone know when playing any style if you can edit & lengthen the bass note just when using Ending One as I find sometimes on certain styles the bass note just cuts off a little too quick for my liking?

[Fred Smith]

Does anyone know when playing any style if you can edit & lengthen the bass note just when using Ending One as I find sometimes on certain styles the bass note just cuts off a little too quick for my liking?

Yes. Just reduce the tempo before the note plays.

Cheers,
Fred

[larrygreen1]

Have just seen a previous topic which looks as though I need to get StyleMagic program.

[VilleGuy]

Fred,

Yes, you are correct, I should technically have said I want to have a sustain that fades.
I want the backing instruments to be "present," but not to continue playing, if you know what I mean. I want them to all stop on the last note/chord, just as a live band would do.

I'm guessing that's not as simple as I would like it to be? (Remember, I'm a newbie still trying to figure out all the buttons  )

[Joe H]

... Yes, you are correct, I should technically have said I want to have a sustain that fades...

We all agree that it takes time to learn our way around the keyboard. The more accurate and detailed you can be will make it easier for others to help you. You see in this thread how many different interpretations there are to your original post?

Suggestion:

It also helps to read the manual!



Joe H