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Started by Cardoso, April 16, 2019, 07:49:32 AM

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Cardoso

Hi,
I just got my new PSR-s775, I'm really happy with it and I would like to protect it from power surges.
What do you guys use for this purpose?
I was thinking in getting a C14 to Schuko adapter to plug into my pc's UPS (uninterruptible power supply).
https://mixtronica.com/tomadas-proteccao-electrica/21781-cabo-adaptador-para-ups-schuko-femea-usa-iec-c14-macho-0-3m-mxpspcu171.html
https://mixtronica.com/tomadas-proteccao-electrica/21774-cabo-adaptador-para-ups-3x-schuko-femea-usa-iec-c14-macho-mxpspcu370.html
My pc's UPS has 1200 VAs.
Is this a good idea?

best regards,
Alvaro


Normanfernandez

I've Connected my Keyboard to the UPS too.

I think it's got enough protection from Power Surges.

Note,,

Disconnect the UPS From the Mains During a Thunderstorm.

Make Sure the House has Proper Earthing.

This make sound Extreme. 
I don't use my keyboard when it's very windy.
The Power lines may touch and cause some Damage.

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Roland

Hello Alvaro,

It would be better if you go about it the other way around: Put a surge protector BEFORE the UPS. This will save your UPS in case of a nasty blip - then plug your keyboard into the UPS. That way you protect both, your keyboard AND the UPS :-)

Cheers, Roland

mikf

I have seen several posts over the years about protecting the keyboard from surges, but I don't think I have ever seen one where someone actually experienced damage that could have resulted from a power surge. Is it a realistic risk?
Mike

sooty8

Hi Alvaro

I have a surge protecter extension lead socket with inputs for 5 plugs, this covers all my gear which I might use, I am more concerned about third party wired sockets then my equipment. I like to know that my gear is as safe as it can be. Having said that, I have noticed that over the years if you have no stage to perform on, how close people come to my keyboard whilst I am playing it, in fact I can recall two instances where they knocked my keyboard, not hard but I had to realign it on the keyboard stand. Thats more of a problem then a power surge.

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Toril S

No problem in Norway. We have stable electric services😀😀
Toril S

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EB5AGV

Quote from: Toril S on April 16, 2019, 01:04:23 PM
No problem in Norway. We have stable electric services😀😀

But do you ever have thunderstorms?. That is one of the main sources for power surges.

Jose
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Plus lots other music toys :-)

Toril S

Yes, we have thunder. I always disconect the keyboard if thunder and  lightning is on its way😀
Toril S

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and PSR-47.
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elad770

Quote from: Roland on April 16, 2019, 09:58:50 AM
Hello Alvaro,

It would be better if you go about it the other way around: Put a surge protector BEFORE the UPS. This will save your UPS in case of a nasty blip - then plug your keyboard into the UPS. That way you protect both, your keyboard AND the UPS :-)

Cheers, Roland

I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH THIS ADVICE. You should not plug a surge protector before the UPS. The UPS IS the surge protector and will provide you with ALL the power safety you
need. If you plug another surge protector before the UPS you might interfere with the UPS regulator. There's simply no need for this.

Joe H

The most important thing is to get a surge protector with a high rating.  I use one that is rated at 4320 Joules.  The higher the better. We have electrical storms where I live and I don't turn on my keyboard during these storms.

Joe H
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Bill

Quote from: Cardoso on April 16, 2019, 07:49:32 AM
Hi,
I just got my new PSR-s775, I'm really happy with it and I would like to protect it from power surges.
What do you guys use for this purpose?
I was thinking in getting a C14 to Schuko adapter to plug into my pc's UPS (uninterruptible power supply).
https://mixtronica.com/tomadas-proteccao-electrica/21781-cabo-adaptador-para-ups-schuko-femea-usa-iec-c14-macho-0-3m-mxpspcu171.html
https://mixtronica.com/tomadas-proteccao-electrica/21774-cabo-adaptador-para-ups-3x-schuko-femea-usa-iec-c14-macho-mxpspcu370.html
My pc's UPS has 1200 VAs.
Is this a good idea?

best regards,
Alvaro

Hi Alvaro

You have asked a very simple question, yet no one has really answered it so far. 
The answer is YES.

Your intended solution is the best that anyone can do. A UPS is far superior to low cost Surge Protection plugs or multi way extension boards. In addition to surge protection it will protect you against having a power failure when you are updating the Keyboard Operation System.  A small (brief) power loss during this time can easily trash the keyboard.

Regards

Bill

However you should also :-

1. Always unplug the keyboard when it is not in use.
2. Make sure you have a Good Household Insurance policy. One that give you cover from "Acts of God" and make sure that your keyboard is actually covered. Some policy will exclude large value items unlesss they are specifically named.
England

Current KB:  YAMAHA GENOS 2

mikf

What Bill says is correct, the UPS will give good protection along with unplugging the keyboard during electric storms and when not in use for long periods.
While protecting your possessions is never a bad idea, especially if you live in an area with a history of power supply problems, people don't normally go to lengths to protect computers and laptops because of their value, - which nowadays is not that high-  - they do it because the data contained is often invaluable and irreplaceable and its loss would be a massive inconvenience. I don't think this is true of an arranger for home use. But of course, you need to do what you are comfortable with.

Mike