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Started by elad770, January 18, 2019, 04:53:14 PM

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elad770

I set the Genos on Full keyboard and it works perfectly fine

I do see why this would be a problem for very complex arpeggiators but in my case it's perfect!


panos

Just to add that the OTS will not always change good if you have the "OTS link" button in "on" position.
In "off" position you can choose when you want to change the OTS voice manually so there will be no surprises at all this way.
For people who don't know all the buttons/functions yet.

soundphase

Quote from: elad770 on January 23, 2019, 01:39:25 PM
I set the Genos on Full keyboard and it works perfectly fine

I do see why this would be a problem for very complex arpeggiators but in my case it's perfect!
For me, "AI Full Keyboard mode" perfectly worked with the Entertainer score (There is absolutely no change and the style perfectly adapted the notes I played).
But very few original piano scores I played, correctly sounded with an additional style unfortunately.

For classical ones (Liszt, Chopin, Fauré, ...) , I would have liked adding "Free Play Style" over what I play, but it doesn't work correctly. Additional arrangements are required.
I think the main reason is a lot of pianos scores have arpeggios on left hand with only one note at a time, and the algorithm is not smart enough to detect the good chord with so few simultaneous notes.

Murat

Quote from: panos on January 23, 2019, 01:42:52 PM
Just to add that the OTS will not always change good if you have the "OTS link" button in "on" position.
In "off" position you can choose when you want to change the OTS voice manually so there will be no surprises at all this way.
For people who don't know all the buttons/functions yet.

Agreed. The other issue with OTS is (also changing voice manually), the transition might not be very smooth. The issue I have with the Genos (in fact with Korg Pa3x and Pa4x) is the transition. Lets say you are playing something with electric guitar with some effect and change the sound to piano, unfortunately the effect momentarily carry to the piano which makes a loud and ugly noise depending on the effects and sounds. How I wish this issue was rectified. This also occurs when changing from one registration to another.

soundphase

Quote from: Murat on January 23, 2019, 02:18:29 PM
Agreed. The other issue with OTS is (also changing voice manually), the transition might not be very smooth. The issue I have with the Genos (in fact with Korg Pa3x and Pa4x) is the transition. Lets say you are playing something with electric guitar with some effect and change the sound to piano, unfortunately the effect momentarily carry to the piano which makes a loud and ugly noise depending on the effects and sounds. How I wish this issue was rectified. This also occurs when changing from one registration to another.
There are a lot of forum threads concerning seamless sound switch. I personally think it's the biggest issue.

SnowThief

You can literally fix the no seamless sound switching thing for $20, unless you need to be able to play a 16 track MIDI file at the same time. :)

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,48439.0.html

Heinz_Wolter

Hello,
just my 10 Cents:
I also come from Piano (mainly Bass notes with left Hand and chrords with Right Hand). I am not very happy with full Keyboard or AI full Keyboard (too many chord changes),
BUT:
with a new  functionality (ASFAIK available since Tyros 5 /PSR S970) you can let the split Keyboard Setting but the chord recognizing is done with the Right Hand. This works for many Songs I play nearly out of the Box. This is the Setting I like most. Did you try this out?
Regards Heinz

JanCK

Quote from: Heinz_Wolter on January 30, 2019, 06:35:49 AM

I also come from Piano (mainly Bass notes with left Hand and chrords with Right Hand). I am not very happy with full Keyboard or AI full Keyboard (too many chord changes),
BUT:
with a new  functionality (ASFAIK available since Tyros 5 /PSR S970) you can let the split Keyboard Setting but the chord recognizing is done with the Right Hand. This works for many Songs I play nearly out of the Box. This is the Setting I like most. Did you try this out?


Heinz, I don't know about the "new functionality" that you wrote about.  ASFAIK? What is that?  Initials for something, I assuming.  Is this something separate from the Genos that you purchased?

EB5AGV

ASFAIK or AFAIK = AS Far As I Know

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mikf

Yes - but what keyboard setting are you referring to??
Do you just mean AI fingered as opposed to AI full keyboard? If so this has been around a long time and of course AI takes into account everything you play to work out the best chord. But it is not much good for the original question posed here, which was about how to play full keyboard standard piano with a style. To play standard full keyboard piano you have to use one of the full keyboard settings, as mentioned in previous posts.
Mike