how to create blues styles

[ekurburski]

how do you create styles that perform blues licks with only notes from CM7 chord notes?

[KeyboardMaestroYT]

I always put it on "Bypass" lol
Don't want to be restricted to using certain notes and by doing stuff more complicated than it should be.

[Toril S]

That was not an explanation on how to do it! I would also like to know😀

[mikf]

Style creation its a very complicated subject. Asking a general question like this is actually meaningless, - its like saying how do I play the piano. You need to ask very specific questions.
Mike

[ekurburski]

Toril, As I'm studying the manual I see you can enter any notes when making a muti-pad.  I haven't played with these so wil have to mess around a bit.

KeyboardMaestroYT Not sure what you meant by "bypass".  Could you explain?

mijf:  Sorry, but I really don't know what questions you want me to ask.  Guess, I could try and create a style with a phrase with flats added and see what happens.

[pjd]

Hi --

This question isn't as silly as it may sound!

Please check out the Reference Manual section titled "SFF Edit -- Making Style File Format Settings" or something like that. In the Genos Reference Manual, it starts on page 21.

The arranger converts notes taken from the source pattern (AKA notes in a MIDI Part belonging to a style) to the actual notes sounded by the instrument. The conversion is guided by the Note Transposition Rule (NTR) and Note Transposition Table (NTT).

The NTR depends upon the Chord Root. The NTT depends upon the Chord Type. Along with NTR and NTT, you get to specify the Chord Root ("C") and the Chord Type ("M7").

The Chord Root and the Chord Type, determine the Source Chord from which MIDI notes in the style phrase are taken.

Guess what? The Source Chord does not have to be "CMaj7"! If you tear enough Yamaha styles apart, you'll see guitar phrases built on "E7" or some other Source Chord other than CMaj7.

CMaj7 is the default in Style Creator, so many people just go along with the default. You can use any source chord that you want. You must be sure to change the SFF definition to match accordingly.

Hope this helps out -- pj

Music technology blog: http://sandsoftwaresound.net/

[mikf]

I assumed from your very general question that you are a complete novice at style creation, and if I am correct an answer like pjd's would go right over your head. And you would not be alone, because the vast majority of arranger players don't mess with this stuff, and if they do any style creation they keep it to simple stuff like cut and paste functions, small changes to style parts. The vast majority of arranger players never get deeply into style creation, because its not trivial.
So if I am correct and you are a novice, then start to learn about style creation in simple steps. Read the manual and study the lessons on this website. Then  - first try doing simple cut and paste functions to replace style parts with parts from other styles. Then try small modifications to existing style parts, then work your way up  the ladder of difficulty, writing your own bass lines, phrases etc. If you find you can easily master this you might move on to more complex function changes. Likelihood is that you will run into problems on the way, and then you will understand what I mean by asking specific questions.
Having said all this, my advice rather than get deeply into style creation at this stage would be to to try and find some styles that already come close to doing what you want, rather than trying to create them. 
Mike   

[ekurburski]

mikf; You're right.  Like so many others I have played the yamaha kb's for years and only used the styles on the board.  I have only recently started d'led other styles and using them.  I'm quite dense on a lot of the technical stuff and it seems that it takes me forever to learn new stuff.  It's much easier to rely on the old and proven ways to do things.   Still I keep plowing ahead & trying.  BTW, although it was a complex  answer I did understand most of pj's post.

PJ; Thank you so much for such a complete and thoughtful answer.  Now I will have to d'l the Geno's reference manual and see if it translates to the 3000. 

[ekurburski]

I found the reference t all of this in the 3000 manual pg 121.  Man it looks like one could spend a lifetime learning how to use this keyboard!!  Just browsing this section I came up with all kinds of goodies to play with.  Not enough hours in the day!

[panos]

https://www.songtive.com/chords/piano/Cmaj7
Just curious to remember which kind of chord is the CM7.
That table reminds me the periodic table of elements in chemistry   brrrrr....

[pjd]

Man it looks like one could spend a lifetime learning how to use this keyboard!! ...  Not enough hours in the day!

Amen! Glad to help out. Have fun! -- pj

[ekurburski]

pj, visited your blog.  Must say a lot of info, most way over my head but nice to know the info is there