How to adjust a style volume.

[Arnak]

Hi,

I hope I can explain this question so it can be understood.

When I have a style playing and I am using fingered chords I cannot tell the difference between the chords I am playing as the volume is too low against the drums in the style.

So how do I change the drum volume down or the chords up in volume, please?

Am I correct in saying that the easiest way is to use the Mixing Console to just lower the drum volume?

Thanks,

Martin

[Al Ram]

i use mixing console to change volume of drums or any other instrument.

thanks

[ekurburski]

Finally a question I can answer,  Yes, raise or lower the volume of style or drums in the mixing console.  I prefer raising the volume of style versus lowering volume of the drums as it seems to me to have a better balance.  Play with it and pick what sounds best overall to you.

[Arnak]

Hi,

Thanks for the advice.

I have tried the mixing console but cannot achieve the result that seems right.

To give an example, pick any style, ACMP and OTS link on then play a fingered chord then change the chord.

Can you tell any difference in the chords played, I can't.

I am coming originally from a manual organ where when you needed say the waltz rhythm, you played pedal, chord, chord, which gave you boom, cha cha so you clearly hear the chord being played.

I cannot get the same effect with the style playing even although I am using fingered chord.

The chord appears to play but very softly almost inaudibly.

If I add a left-hand voice then it plays as long as I hold the chord down, so not in the rhythm.

Surely there is a way to make the chord played so that it can be heard?

Or in other words, what am I doing wrong?

Thanks,

Martin

[overover]

Hi Martin,

please press [Mixing Console] button (several times, if needed) to bring up the "STYLE PART" display. There you can adjust all eight ( 8 ) Style Parts as desired.

Then memorize the settings to a Registration button and save the Registration Bank.


Best regards,
Chris

[Arnak]

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the advice, I tried that but even adjusting each channel I still could not get the chords to sound loud enough.

I assume that because the styles contain only a limited chord range that the fingered chords are not actually part of the style as the parts that sound vary depending on the style chosen.

Perhaps I should check what happens when I don't use the full fingered option?

Do you find that your keyboard works in the same way?

** Update **

I have just listened to some video's on using chords and to me, they sound just like my Tyros, that is I can't hear a lot of difference in the chord sound so I will just try lowering the drum kit volume and see if that helps.

Otherwise, I will just have to live with the way it sounds.

Thanks,

Martin

[Patrick]

Hi Martin, most of the time in styles, the left voice is off! you must check that as the left voice is part of the style; then you've to put this voice on using OTS buttons and rise the volume at the same time you're playing until you'll have the good volume for the chords; you can also add some effects, or save your settings in a registration; all the best Patrick

[Arnak]

Hi Patrick,

Thanks for the advice.

However when I add the left-hand voice and hold down a chord then the voice sounds continually, so does not play with the rhythm.

If it did that would be perfect.

Or am I doing something wrong?

Martin

[DerekA]

The styles are a lot more complex than just boom-cha-cha, so perhaps it's the case that you are expecting a very simple pattern.

Different styles have different "densities" of notes but, if you're in fingered mode, you should hear a clear chord that follows the notes you are playing in the left hand.

The 'PAD' style channel is usually the one playing "solid" chords so try boosting the volume on that one. Also press the 'channel' button and try switching style parts off or soloing them.

You can also boost the overall style volume, and cut the RH voice volume, using the balance option.

[jwyvern]

Hi Patrick,

Thanks for the advice.

However when I add the left-hand voice and hold down a chord then the voice sounds continually, so does not play with the rhythm.

If it did that would be perfect.

Or am I doing something wrong?

Martin

You need to use an appropriate voice for the LH and turn the volume up so it can be heard. Then the left hand becomes more than just a passive indicator to the Style of which chords to use. It becomes part of the audible accompaniment so has to be played as such complete with its own rhythm to fit in with what the style is doing, and when you get used to it, use suitable inversions so it forms a logical musical progression of its own.
Assuming the left hold is off, if the LH notes are going on for too long it must be because you are not releasing them in time to the music. It is OK to release the notes sooner, the style is already playing the required chord and will continue to do so. It is not necessary to keep the chord and left hand depressed all the time.
Alternatively use a pad or strings which are more likely to sound OK when extended.
John

[Arnak]

Hi John.

Thank you for clearing that up.

So it's back to my old way of playing but without the bass pedals?

Sigh! So much for an easy life

Here I am hoping the keyboard will play the chords in rhythm to avoid me having to work so hard.

Hey, my excuse is that I'm not getting any younger...

Martin

[jwyvern]

"Here I am hoping the keyboard will play the chords in rhythm to avoid me having to work so hard"

Hi Martin,
If you want to hear chords playing without having to concentrate too much yourself, many styles have a guitar playing chords in chord part 1 or 2. Normally it may not be very noticeable because it is overpowered by the mix. But all you need to do is turn up the level on that style part and, depending on your choice of style, you will have a chord accomp. Other styles may have alternative voices playing chord parts.

John

[Fred Smith]

So it's back to my old way of playing but without the bass pedals?

Sigh! So much for an easy life

Here I am hoping the keyboard will play the chords in rhythm to avoid me having to work so hard.

I never use the left voice. I don't have any trouble finding styles which provide the rhythm I want without my playing the left hand.

Maybe all you need to do is change the balance between the style and the right voices.

Cheers,
Fred

[Arnak]

Hi Fred,

Thanks, yes, I'll try that and reducing the drum kit volume.

You know you're getting old when your wife points out that you are now too old to play "When I'm 64"

Martin